Tim Gray
Well-known
It might only be the Summarits that come with the ring. They don't come with the hood; you have to pay extra. The new lenses with this style hood all come with the hood so they might not come with the ring - I don't know.
I could see people wanting to use a 35/1.4 without a hood though.
I could see people wanting to use a 35/1.4 without a hood though.
Freakscene
Obscure member
The lens is real. I have field tested one.
Marty
Marty
peter_n
Veteran
Completely agree. The only decent sliding hood I use is the 75/2 - it locks - what a concept! For all their optical brilliance, Leica is not good at hoods. Most of them suck, including the screw-on hoods on the latest wide-angle Summilux lenses.
menos
Veteran
What really irritated me, when I started with Leica, is, how many different hood systems Leica utilized during the last 20 years, where other camera manufacturers only had screw in or bayonet hoods.
It looks, like Every time, a lens is developed, Leica does a lottery and the winning employee is allowed, to create the hood for the new lens, making it mandatory, to not copy a solution from another employee.
I like the solution from the employee, who invented the sliding hood of the 50 Lux ASPH - the best of them all.
It looks, like Every time, a lens is developed, Leica does a lottery and the winning employee is allowed, to create the hood for the new lens, making it mandatory, to not copy a solution from another employee.
I like the solution from the employee, who invented the sliding hood of the 50 Lux ASPH - the best of them all.
trph_2000
Established
I agree completely. In fact, one of the significant reasons why I sold my 35 'lux Asph
is because the hood was abysmal and popped off with the slightest touch. When I read that the new one would have the screw-in hood I was convinced to sell and wait for the updated version. I also lost shots due to focus shift in the f2 to f4 range when on my M8.
is because the hood was abysmal and popped off with the slightest touch. When I read that the new one would have the screw-in hood I was convinced to sell and wait for the updated version. I also lost shots due to focus shift in the f2 to f4 range when on my M8.
Tim Gray
Well-known
The 50/1.4 ASPH has the same style hood. It slides out and locks. I personally love it. I never have to use it if I don't want, but if I need it for some reason, it's right there - not at home.
peter_n
Veteran
I have the LHSA 50/1.4 ASPH and I use a 43mm CV wide angle hood on that. Glad to hear the regular Summilux ASPH has the same hood as the 75! Think it'll catch on?
Tim Gray
Well-known
No. Just because the last 5 or 6 lenses Leica has released have screw in hoods.
dh-photo
Member
Just out of curiosity, how did you come across this .pdf in the first place? Of all places, I wouldn't be looking at an overseas site for hints of new products!
Best,
David
dh-photo
Member
I also don't understand the hood design of many modern Leica lenses. The pull-and-lock of the 50 and 75 asph are cool. All 50mm and longer lenses could be using this. But the screw type hood? What a pain.
Say, why don't Leica use the 28 'cron asph type hoods on all their wide-angles? In my opinion, that's the quickest and most robust hood. Only way to make it better is to make it 100% metal.
/David
Say, why don't Leica use the 28 'cron asph type hoods on all their wide-angles? In my opinion, that's the quickest and most robust hood. Only way to make it better is to make it 100% metal.
/David
peter_n
Veteran
True. But they've mostly been wide-angle. I read something somewhere that the screw-in hoods are a cost-cutting thing, the bayonet-type hoods are "too expensive". That doesn't sound right to me since Leica stuff is inelastic. I mean, who cares what it costs?
semilog
curmudgeonly optimist
Agree. Mine was fantastic.
Tim Gray
Well-known
It was mentioned on the LUG email list.
Philippe D.
Cheeeeeese
I guess I was mislead by the picture without hood having the same diameter as the one with hood.
It could be a protective ring, which have to be removed first to put the hood on.
If this is the real new Lux35A.
It could be a protective ring, which have to be removed first to put the hood on.
If this is the real new Lux35A.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
What about a positive-stop screw-on hood combined with a Series filter holder? Seems likely.
Also, why do people hate sliding hoods so much? I like 'em. Especially on the 75/2.
Cheers,
R.
Also, why do people hate sliding hoods so much? I like 'em. Especially on the 75/2.
Cheers,
R.
Turtle
Veteran
I just hope Leica prices this right. With the M9 proving very popular, surely now is the time for Leica to be aggressive on price, pull as many people into the lens system as possible, ensuring they are then locked into buying future bodies and lenses after investing in the lenses? Don't bite me, just an opinion thats all.... Maybe they don't think the volume will ever be there. If the RRP of Eur 3750 or $5K is correct, thats higher than I expected - C'est la vie...
I still want one, and it will complete my Leica lens set, with Zeiss alongside. I bought a 24 lux because I needed one and it hurt like hell. preparing myself now for the 35 lux asph II by having daily ice baths and hourly Tabasco eye drops.
As for the hood, I like the 24 lux hood a lot. Works perfectly, is out of the way, is neat, does not catch on things, is strong and will not snap etc. Whats the problem with it? Series filters would not be good for a landscape shooter switching filters a lot in B&W, but if you want a 35mm for landscape use, why not get a 35 biogon/skopar/summarit and save $3-4K? For color digital I suppose the issue is use of both M8 and IR filters alongside other Ms, but the M8 will be consigned to ancient history in five years IMO, while the lenses will still be used for another 50.
I still want one, and it will complete my Leica lens set, with Zeiss alongside. I bought a 24 lux because I needed one and it hurt like hell. preparing myself now for the 35 lux asph II by having daily ice baths and hourly Tabasco eye drops.
As for the hood, I like the 24 lux hood a lot. Works perfectly, is out of the way, is neat, does not catch on things, is strong and will not snap etc. Whats the problem with it? Series filters would not be good for a landscape shooter switching filters a lot in B&W, but if you want a 35mm for landscape use, why not get a 35 biogon/skopar/summarit and save $3-4K? For color digital I suppose the issue is use of both M8 and IR filters alongside other Ms, but the M8 will be consigned to ancient history in five years IMO, while the lenses will still be used for another 50.
J J Kapsberger
Well-known
I feel that the hood on my 50 Summilux Asph., although it locks into place, doesn't offer the physical protection that a screw-on vented hood would. (A screw-on hood would stay in place more reliably; sometimes the sliding hood unlocks.)
And it doesn't look as sexy!
J J Kapsberger
Well-known
I guess you can't, but you can easily match that convenience with a properly designed screw-on or slide-on hood. My non-slide-out hoods are always on my lenses and have caps that cover them. I don't have to worry about forgetting or misplacing the hoods.
Perhaps, if you're into changing filters often. Otherwise, not a pain at all. The advantage of a screw-on hood is that by going in front of the filter it gives effective glare protection to the filter too, whereas the slide-out/on and bayonet ones don't. The filters seem rather exposed sitting inside of, rather then behind, the slide-out/on and bayonet hoods.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Exactly. My old 35 Summilux and 50 C-Sonnar have the hood on at all times; likewise my (loaner) 21 and 24 Summiluxes. My 75 and 90 Summicrons and 135/2,8 Elmarit-M have sliders, and they're fine. The 15 CV is built in. The 21/2.8 Kobalux (screw-in) is a bugger. And the 90 Thambar push-on hood is a nightmare.
Cheers,
R.
menos
Veteran
I had a Nikon 85 1.4 AF-D lens with wonderful big spun aluminum hood.
This has been the only lens with screw in hood for the time until I sold it.
I hated this lens hood, as every time, I decided, to go small with naked lens and small body, I had to screw around!
What I think, is a real shame for a German engineer at Leica is, that Nikon and basically any other lens manufacturer of affordable mass produced lenses can design convenient, efficient lens hoods, that let you fit the hood, a lens cap without screwing around with the hood and often even have a solution for saving space for storage.
Leica lens hoods are a mess - there are way too many different designs, one has to carry either the hood or a separate lens cap and every generation, the manufacturer changes the hod design, which strongly reflects, how insufficient the technical solution of these are.
The best solution with the most ingenuity by far are the sliding hoods - be it with or without lock - as these are clean, always there for convenience, cannot be lost and lens caps (only one) can be fitted on the lens, with the hood collapsing for storage.
On top, the lenses, which have these slide hoods are very well corrected for flare, making the "less efficient hood" as many argue a possible solution.
Even better - people, who feel, the slide hood is not sufficiently to their standards can fit an aftermarket hood as they please without looking ridiculous.
I don't understand, why Leica does not go straight with this beautiful design along with all lenses, down to the real wide angles (28 and shorter), where the rectangular hoods make a lot of sense.
[end of Leica hood rant ;-)]
This has been the only lens with screw in hood for the time until I sold it.
I hated this lens hood, as every time, I decided, to go small with naked lens and small body, I had to screw around!
What I think, is a real shame for a German engineer at Leica is, that Nikon and basically any other lens manufacturer of affordable mass produced lenses can design convenient, efficient lens hoods, that let you fit the hood, a lens cap without screwing around with the hood and often even have a solution for saving space for storage.
Leica lens hoods are a mess - there are way too many different designs, one has to carry either the hood or a separate lens cap and every generation, the manufacturer changes the hod design, which strongly reflects, how insufficient the technical solution of these are.
The best solution with the most ingenuity by far are the sliding hoods - be it with or without lock - as these are clean, always there for convenience, cannot be lost and lens caps (only one) can be fitted on the lens, with the hood collapsing for storage.
On top, the lenses, which have these slide hoods are very well corrected for flare, making the "less efficient hood" as many argue a possible solution.
Even better - people, who feel, the slide hood is not sufficiently to their standards can fit an aftermarket hood as they please without looking ridiculous.
I don't understand, why Leica does not go straight with this beautiful design along with all lenses, down to the real wide angles (28 and shorter), where the rectangular hoods make a lot of sense.
[end of Leica hood rant ;-)]