New B&W film comming Jan.09

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I just saw in my new fall edition of Freestyle mag. a new B&W film is comming in Janurary 09 called Legacy Pro. Manufactured in Japan by one of the leading film mfg. co. in world. I'm guessing Fuji? 100 & 400 iso, good latitude, fine grain, great for fine art, portature. Typical stuff you read... Don't say anything about price. Anyhow this to me is good news & shores up some more evidence that film will be around awhile. Think it's Fuji? Is there any other film manufacture in Japan?
 
WOW!! Even more good news that Freestyle has partnered with a major company in the USA to make a new line of Arista premium B&W films. Thats cool! Made in the USA.
 
My son will graduate from the Philadelphia College of Art next year and he told me that the students there are "all over film cameras". The irony is that there is very little affordable new equipment available (not point and shoot) and you need a little time and exposure to figure out the used market.

Ray
 
Wow, I hope they have it in 12 for my new Fuji Folder

Wow, I hope they have it in 12 for my new Fuji Folder

Sorry that's 120 I hope they supply.

The new Fuji GF670... Planning on buying Serial number 00001
 
I agree that the art market is strong and and growing. The rental darkroom I use in San Francisco is very busy during the school year, with lots and lots of art students in their 20s doing wild stuff. A lot of them started with digital which stimulated their interest in film. Many started when someone gave them a Holga.

Also hot this year: wet plate and alternative processes.
 
Does anybody sense that just maybe both Kodak and Fuji have decided on their new marketing model for film? Crank up the OEM/private label channel. Get out of branding and marketing it themselves. Keeps the equipment running, profits at same (or perhaps even better) level, chops marketing and support costs to near zero. Cool.
 
All you have to do is look at Kodak's and Fuji's year over year decline in film sales to see that discounting film through rebranding isn't a new model for prosperity.
 
Heres hoping for some Fuji film via Freestyle! Hypothetically if the film does come from Fuji in 100 and 400 ISO flavors whats the guess on the 100 speed? The 400 could be Neopan 400. The 100 speed; Acros? SS?

I also hope they come in bulk rolls too. Ive found a steady stream of empty 35mm cartridges from a local 1hr photo lab. Plus I get to roll my personal favorite exposures 30...
 
Just got my Freestyle catalog a little earlier. Haven't cracked it open, but the buzz I'm getting from this thread sounds good.

As far as the film market is concerned, I think the name of the game is sustainability, not conquering new worlds (there aren't any). Kodak long abandoned courting the pro market for black-and-white, instead talking up the fine-art (there's that term again!) market. That was well over a decade and a half ago; near as I can tell, Tri-X, among others, is still here. 🙂


- Barrett
 
amateriat said:
Just got my Freestyle catalog a little earlier. Haven't cracked it open, but the buzz I'm getting from this thread sounds good.

As far as the film market is concerned, I think the name of the game is sustainability, not conquering new worlds (there aren't any). Kodak long abandoned courting the pro market for black-and-white, instead talking up the fine-art (there's that term again!) market. That was well over a decade and a half ago; near as I can tell, Tri-X, among others, is still here. 🙂


- Barrett
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What is fine art? 😛

Just kidding, I think it's time for me to stock up on BW film from freestyle.
 
From the LUG:

The latest Freestyle catalog adds a line to their Arista re-packaged films - 'Arista Premium', made by a 'major American manufacturer'. I called to ask who makes it, and the rep said contractual obligations prevented him from saying. So I asked how should I treat it, pretty much like Tri-X? and he said pretty much.

In January they'll be offering another new line, Legacy Pro, made by a 'one of the premier film manufacturers in the world'. I asked if this stuff should be treated pretty much as Neopan, and he said pretty much.
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Trius said:
Does anybody sense that just maybe both Kodak and Fuji have decided on their new marketing model for film? Crank up the OEM/private label channel. Get out of branding and marketing it themselves. Keeps the equipment running, profits at same (or perhaps even better) level, chops marketing and support costs to near zero. Cool.
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... and now a word from a pessimist:

Perhaps they are just dumping remaining inventories. That wouldn't be cool.
 
Fill your freezer...

Fill your freezer...

...now. Before the ebay vultures drive the price up. I am currently using HP5+ that expired in 2003 with good results. The film has been kept cool since new. ISO 100 film would last even longer.

Gumby said:
... and now a word from a pessimist:

Perhaps they are just dumping remaining inventories. That wouldn't be cool.
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I teach a Fundamentals class to college level Graphic Deign students. For the past two years I have offered to teach the course with Photoshop (since that is the program they use the most.) Both times they have demanded that I teach the course with the wet darkroom. I am not even going to ask this year. Film is a long way from dead.
 
There you go!

There you go!

John Rountree said:
I teach a Fundamentals class to college level Graphic Deign students. For the past two years I have offered to teach the course with Photoshop (since that is the program they use the most.) Both times they have demanded that I teach the course with the wet darkroom. I am not even going to ask this year. Film is a long way from dead.
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Rather than speculate and hypothesize and theorize as to the Whys and Wherefores behind the marketing strategy, just buy the film. Thank your lucky stars that it is dirt cheap. Use the heck out of it. Make the makers, whomever they may be, realize that there are a lot of us out here shooting film.
 
"Both times they have demanded that I teach the course with the wet darkroom."

What use is a wet darkroom class to Graphic Design students? It is extremely unlikely they will ever encounter or use one in the future.
 
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