David Goldfarb
Well-known
I e-mailed to join the list. As long as the price isn't absurd, I want one.
For those hung up on TTL metering--it doesn't really do much for a fixed lens rangefinder. They can't focus that close, so you're not often in bellows factor territory, and it is possible to compensate for that anyway without TTL metering, if the meter is communicating with the focus lever (Canon had a system like this for autoflash exposure). There's only one lens, so the meter can be designed to have the same angle of view as the lens. TTL metering would compensate for filters, but it's not hard to add the filter factor using the exposure compensation dial or just by resetting the ISO dial, and it wouldn't be worth making the camera thicker, heavier, and more complex just to compensate automatically for filter factor.
For those hung up on TTL metering--it doesn't really do much for a fixed lens rangefinder. They can't focus that close, so you're not often in bellows factor territory, and it is possible to compensate for that anyway without TTL metering, if the meter is communicating with the focus lever (Canon had a system like this for autoflash exposure). There's only one lens, so the meter can be designed to have the same angle of view as the lens. TTL metering would compensate for filters, but it's not hard to add the filter factor using the exposure compensation dial or just by resetting the ISO dial, and it wouldn't be worth making the camera thicker, heavier, and more complex just to compensate automatically for filter factor.
FrankS
Registered User
It'll have a leaf shutter. It's simpler and smaller than a focal plane shutter which isn't needed because the lens is not interchangeable. (A focal plane shutter blocks light from the film during lens changes.) The Mamiya 6 has leaf shutters in interchangeable lenses but requires a light curtain to block light during lens changes. TTL metering doesn't work with leaf shutters because they are located in the lens too close to the front to leave room for a meter cell. (A focal plane shutter is located farther back, just in front of the film, hence the name.)
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BillBingham2
Registered User
This is how.....
This is how.....
My wife is too watchful, but thought CVs were from years ago.
It was a great run while it lasted.......
Pick up an old FSU or Japanese folder on Evilbay. Shine it up and then give it away here when the new Fuji comes home!
I am too evil, must go do something for good.......
B2 (;->
This is how.....
My wife is too watchful, but thought CVs were from years ago.
It was a great run while it lasted.......
Pick up an old FSU or Japanese folder on Evilbay. Shine it up and then give it away here when the new Fuji comes home!
I am too evil, must go do something for good.......
B2 (;->
dazedgonebye
Veteran
I'll just sell the Iskra. That way I get the bait and switch plus some money to put toward the new camera!
Evil genius!
(I'm just kidding guys. Don't jump on me for deceiving my wife.)
aizan
Veteran
yay, i sent my email. i hope the voigtlander version does away with the "667" marking, though. *crosses fingers*
Soeren
Well-known
I'll just sell the Iskra. That way I get the bait and switch plus some money to put toward the new camera!
Evil genius!
(I'm just kidding guys. Don't jump on me for deceiving my wife.)
I don't see it as deceiving. The knowledge of you buying cameras apparently hurts her. By not telling about them you protect her from being hurt. Nothing wrong with that
Kind regards
Abbazz
6x9 and be there!
I'm on the list too. Just couldn't resist. A Bessa with Heliar lens, music to my ears. Too bad Cosina & Fuji didn't go all the way to 6x9 format though...
Cheers!
Abbazz
Cheers!
Abbazz
Ernst Dinkla
Well-known
Stephen,
The Polaroid Pathfinders 110B and the 900 had single window range/viewfinders equal to the best Konica viewfinders of the same period. The 900 also had the first electrically-controlled shutter, first camera with programmed (shutter and aperture) auto exposure. That's 40 years ago.
The base of the Bessa III rangefinder didn't look as being wider than 50 mm (estimation but I'm usually good at that), that's quite short for an 80 mm lens. My Iskra has 55 mm (75 mm lens), the Polaroids 110a/120 54 mm (127 mm lens).
Edited: The physical rangefinder base is approximately 37/38 mm, so even less, I thought the round window was the second rangefinder window but it is the one in the illumination window.
It's odd that the specification letter next to the Photokina display of the two cameras mentioned that Cosina will distribute the camera outside Japan etc. and Mr. Kobayashi obviously isn't aware of that.
Ernst Dinkla
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Krosya
Konicaze
While I like this camera based on what we know, I really would like to know more - size, weight, price and well......how good is the lens. I'm sure it will not be a bad camera, but will it be worth it's price (whatever that is), and will it deliver the type of pics I'd like - I suppose time will tell. So, I'll wait and see. But I really want it to be great!
dazedgonebye
Veteran
I don't see it as deceiving. The knowledge of you buying cameras apparently hurts her. By not telling about them you protect her from being hurt. Nothing wrong with that
Kind regards
I like that. I mean, the knowledge that I'm screwing around on her would hurt her too....I shouldn't tell.
Avotius
Some guy
sorry for the off topic, but why is Stephan using a different user name or has this already been mentioned somewhere else and I didnt notice?
Ernst Dinkla
Well-known
He is at the Photokina right now and may not have arranged his email account for posting from Germany.
Ernst Dinkla
ray*j*gun
Veteran
Emailed Stephen to be on the list.
Ray
Ray
kuzano
Veteran
Buy this instead.. Wife will make you buy the Fuji
Buy this instead.. Wife will make you buy the Fuji
This on Portland Craigslist $15. Buy it and whenever you go into public with the wife, take it along. Shortly she will encourage you to buy anything you want. ?????
Buy this instead.. Wife will make you buy the Fuji
This on Portland Craigslist $15. Buy it and whenever you go into public with the wife, take it along. Shortly she will encourage you to buy anything you want. ?????
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
Unless I misread Stephen's original post, y'all are brave to enter a *buyer* waiting list for a camera that we don't even have the price for it yet.
I'll get one eventually, 6x7 is my favorite format, and I know Fujinon lenses are super, and it has to be more compact than a Mamiya 7II, hopefully way cheaper too
I'll get one eventually, 6x7 is my favorite format, and I know Fujinon lenses are super, and it has to be more compact than a Mamiya 7II, hopefully way cheaper too
sooner
Well-known
Will, I responded and put my name on the list, but I made clear that my commitment to buy the new Fuji folder is contingent on price. I think more than anything this is a chance to register a serious intention to buy the camera. It's certainly not a legally binding contract to buy the camera, so I don't see anything "brave" about it.
David Goldfarb
Well-known
He said he won't take deposits until all the details are available, so I think that's where the final commitment will be made.
ray*j*gun
Veteran
I agree.....I think the list interest is contingent on price...... that would be obvious.
Ray
Ray
Trius
Waiting on Maitani
It certainly could have a TTL meter even with a leaf shutter. In that case it would have two meters -- one operating traditionally, i.e., not TTL, and the second using cells mounted inside, a la the OM-2/3/4. The former would be used for metering in manual mode, the latter for auto.
aizan
Veteran
ah, much better:
