thinkfloyd
Flippy Nose
Yes, this is the only camera I am interested in right now. Hopefully they don't f it up.
raid
Dad Photographer
Interchangeable lenses will make this Fuji better.
thinkfloyd
Flippy Nose
This is the only news I've been waiting for since it was rumored and leaked... here's hoping they fixed the bugs of the x100 and their lens lineup at launch is adequate enough.
celluloidprop
Well-known
I love my X100, but I do find myself wishing for a 21/24 and a 50/75 option on some occasions. If the EVF competes with the NEX-7 and those options are on the table (even if I couldn't afford them immediately), I have to think I'm going to be in.
rbelyell
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you won't get any closer to 21/24mm because its unlikely to be a FF cam, thus my unfortunate lack of enthusiasm, given my love for the x100. another 1.5 crop cam to screw up the FL of my lenses i dont need, regardless of IQ. too bad really, i was hoping fuji would fill this obvious need...maybe someday...
btw, my x100 has no 'bugs', so i guess theyve already been 'exterminated'.
btw, my x100 has no 'bugs', so i guess theyve already been 'exterminated'.
celluloidprop
Well-known
Sony has a 16mm f/2.8 pancake for the NEX system, so I see no reason Fuji couldn't make one (or a faster non-pancake). f/2 would be better than f/2.8, but I'll eat the stop for the option of going wide.
Full-frame vs APS-C only screws up focal lengths for legacy systems built on the 35mm standard.
Full-frame vs APS-C only screws up focal lengths for legacy systems built on the 35mm standard.
Yes, it's full frame to itself. Personally I'd rather have APS-C, than spend more $$ on full frame. This keeps the cost significantly less than it otherwise would be.
gavinlg
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rbelyell
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interesting comment given that this is the Rangefinder Forum, and rangefinders take 'legacy' lenses, no? i think many on forums like this use legacy lenses on film and would like to properly utilize them digitally. who the heck wants to keep investing in proprietary lenses for every cam mfg under the sun when one can use wonderful quality 'legacy' lenses cross platform? if you already own a $700 21mm lens with near zero distortion, do you really want to go and pay fuji another $700 for their cropped version of same?
Matthew Allen
Well-known
Exciting. It's going to be pricey though, count on it.
gavinlg
Veteran
Full frame lenses never perform as well as proprietary lenses on crop sensors. Ever. The mediocre 17mm olympus pancake will outperform an M mount zeiss/leica of similar focal length anyday on an m4/3 body - plus it's smaller, lighter, cheaper, and has fast and accurate AF.
gavinlg
Veteran
Fujifilm are really clever with sensor engineering - I'm sure they'll have a 21mm equivalent lens that's small, high quality, and doesn't vignette or have any optical flaws. 99% sure.
gavinlg
Veteran
Note the contax G2 style grip and the smallish lens mount in comparison to the largish sensor. I'm willing to bet they've used the contax G as the main inspiration for this camera!
Leigh Youdale
Well-known
Well, no, actually. I don't know where you got that idea from but it's quite incorrect.
keytarjunkie
no longer addicted
It doesn't really remind me of the G very much. The grip does, sure. But the rest of it, no. Here's hoping the viewfinder isn't anything like the G's...
This is a VERY hard camera to pull off. Sure, it will be useable with their lenses. But once someone puts a 3rd party lens on with an adaptor, the viewfinder becomes unuseable (unless you can manually select the focal length, and even then there will be plenty of lenses out of the range of the viewfinder's zoom).
This is a VERY hard camera to pull off. Sure, it will be useable with their lenses. But once someone puts a 3rd party lens on with an adaptor, the viewfinder becomes unuseable (unless you can manually select the focal length, and even then there will be plenty of lenses out of the range of the viewfinder's zoom).
ReeRay
Well-known
Questionable. I've had the benefit of comparing my Contax G 45mm f2 against the Olympus 45mm F1.8 on my GF-1.
It was close but I was happy to return the Olympus.
Leigh Youdale
Well-known
Think for a moment like a Fuji executive and not like a GAS-affected amateur photographer with limited budget.
Would you put all the research and effort into a camera that has the potential to dethrone the M9 and then produce and sell the bodies so that people can then drag out all their old "legacy" lenses to attach. Or would you also design and produce a range of customised prime lenses that can make for added sales on top of the revenue from the bodies? Would you even want your new-era camera to be judged from the image quality that some of those legacy lenses would render? I think not.
This isn't about satisfying the economic imperative for a cheap but advanced body. It's about introducing a new line of camera and lenses to suit that will represent a real challenge to Leica.
Would you put all the research and effort into a camera that has the potential to dethrone the M9 and then produce and sell the bodies so that people can then drag out all their old "legacy" lenses to attach. Or would you also design and produce a range of customised prime lenses that can make for added sales on top of the revenue from the bodies? Would you even want your new-era camera to be judged from the image quality that some of those legacy lenses would render? I think not.
This isn't about satisfying the economic imperative for a cheap but advanced body. It's about introducing a new line of camera and lenses to suit that will represent a real challenge to Leica.
claacct
Well-known
I know what Fuji executives are thinking, "make it look retro, M Leica-like, hype it like crazy and those aspiring amateurs will buy it".
This is something that Epson had figured out long ago but the larger more "respectable" camera makers did not bother with it, to their own peril.
This is something that Epson had figured out long ago but the larger more "respectable" camera makers did not bother with it, to their own peril.
gavinlg
Veteran
a 45mm or 50mm lens is the exception - especially the contax G lenses which are probably the best 35mm lenses ever, and you're comparing it to a cheap olympus lens (less than half the new comparable prices).
Try a biogon 21mm f2.8 on your gf-1 and compare it to the panasonic 20mm f1.7 for instance - the panasonic is smaller, much faster, has near perfect image quality from wide open, cheaper, and has AF. The biogon won't perform as well as the pana at f2.8 because it sits closer to the sensor, and the light hits the micro lenses on the sensor at an acute angle.