OurManInTangier
An Undesirable
This was shot as a DNG file at f/2 1/360th using Auto WB with no post processing. It looked terrible on the camera's screen, when viewed on my computer using Capture One 4.1 it looked fine.
I'm now about to look at some other test shots I've just taken.
tmfabian
I met a man once...
ok...here's a reasonable test of the iso performance increase possibility.
First shot was taken some time ago when I started the post your ISO 2500 shots in a fireback at leicasniper, the second shot was taken just now with the EXACT same PP done, because I did add some noise reduction to the previous shot...they were both shot with the same lens on the same camera settings. The only thing that has changed is that I'm in a new apartment.
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Edit...oops set the sizes wrong...everything should be dandy now
Edit2
ops again...forgot to recrop when i resized...NOW everything is dandy
First shot was taken some time ago when I started the post your ISO 2500 shots in a fireback at leicasniper, the second shot was taken just now with the EXACT same PP done, because I did add some noise reduction to the previous shot...they were both shot with the same lens on the same camera settings. The only thing that has changed is that I'm in a new apartment.
OLD FIRMWARE
FIRMWARE 2.0
Edit...oops set the sizes wrong...everything should be dandy now
Edit2
ops again...forgot to recrop when i resized...NOW everything is dandy
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Bill Blackwell
Leica M Shooter
Looks like the new firmware puts out sharper noise.
Well done, Leica
. In any case, I think the upgrade is worth it to be able to use higher capacity SD cards alone.
dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
Man.. Thomas.. your old apartment sure was dusty !!!
Dave
Dave
tmfabian
I met a man once...
Man.. Thomas.. your old apartment sure was dusty !!!
Dave
HAHA. Speaking of apartments, I gotta get back to unpacking...the wife is gonna shoot me when she gets home and finds out i've been tinkering with my camera all day...but then again she's a photographer too, so maybe she'll understand...better to be safe than to suffer the wrath of the wife.
OurManInTangier
An Undesirable
ISO 2500. 1/250th sec, f/2.
OurManInTangier
An Undesirable
100% crop of above
. No photoshop on either
hamzaaytac
Newbie
Dear Thomas,
I think there is much improvement about ISO's. But why not Leica says anything about it? I am not sure about.
I think there is much improvement about ISO's. But why not Leica says anything about it? I am not sure about.
Artorius
Caribbean Traveler
FW v2 my impressions
FW v2 my impressions
I've done the updated FW. Before I did, I shot some before, and then the after. After about a 1/2 hour playing, I find these improvements;
1-I see a quality improvement in both jpeg and raw(DNG) files.
2-Faster, and I mean really fast format time.
3-Now allows use of SDHC.
4-Faster start up time.
5-I can change settings while buffer is clearing.
6-About a 3-4 second improvement in buffer speed with DNG+JPEG Fine
7-Still evaluating.
Will post full sized unprocessed raw to my site later for viewing/downloading.
FW v2 my impressions
I've done the updated FW. Before I did, I shot some before, and then the after. After about a 1/2 hour playing, I find these improvements;
1-I see a quality improvement in both jpeg and raw(DNG) files.
2-Faster, and I mean really fast format time.
3-Now allows use of SDHC.
4-Faster start up time.
5-I can change settings while buffer is clearing.
6-About a 3-4 second improvement in buffer speed with DNG+JPEG Fine
7-Still evaluating.
Will post full sized unprocessed raw to my site later for viewing/downloading.
tmfabian
I met a man once...
Now, that's something to consider...perhaps the perceived ISO performance increase was a side effect from some other programming changes...if that's so I hope to god they don't louse it up in the next firmware update.
OurManInTangier
An Undesirable
Okay, last test examples of boring pics of my cats and kitchen sink.
This was shot at ISO 2500, 1/250 sec at f/2 but in JPEG Fine and with colour saturation set to b/w.
This was shot at ISO 2500, 1/250 sec at f/2 but in JPEG Fine and with colour saturation set to b/w.
OurManInTangier
An Undesirable
...and a 100% crop of above
Tuolumne
Veteran
Damn, that's good!
/T
/T
petepete_seattle
Member
street test
street test
I can sit here all day reading this but it's a nice cloudy day to test this new firmware. See y'all later.
street test
I can sit here all day reading this but it's a nice cloudy day to test this new firmware. See y'all later.
OurManInTangier
An Undesirable
All in all, I think a decent improvement in the higher ISO ranges. Also, taking into account, the incredible swiftness of the new formatting, the quicker buffer times etc etc I think Leica have really done a good job with this update.
I didn't tend to worry about the ISO noise previously as I just shot film at night but this really helps to make the M8 a more versatile camera.
The only gripe I ever really had with the M8 was the noise of the automatic wind-on, if they can make an update to reduce that I'd be ecstatic
I didn't tend to worry about the ISO noise previously as I just shot film at night but this really helps to make the M8 a more versatile camera.
The only gripe I ever really had with the M8 was the noise of the automatic wind-on, if they can make an update to reduce that I'd be ecstatic
Not So Still Life
Newbie
Ok, I'm impressed.
If I can get my images to be as low noise as the cat and sink, etc., then this will be even more amazing to me in the dark churches I need it for.
If I can get my images to be as low noise as the cat and sink, etc., then this will be even more amazing to me in the dark churches I need it for.
cam
the need for speed
The only gripe I ever really had with the M8 was the noise of the automatic wind-on, if they can make an update to reduce that I'd be ecstatic
they have a "discreet advance" feature on the M8.2, but it is not available as an upgrade option on the M8.
OurManInTangier
An Undesirable
KM-25
Well-known
OK, now I am impressed!
I am starting to think they might have indeed knocked back some noise in this update.
First is D700, ISO 1600, CZ 35/2, F/4 in ACR, standard adjustments, ( 25, .5, 25 ), 25 color noise.
Second is M8, ISO 1250, 28/2, F/4 in ACR, standard adjustments, ( 25, .5, 25) , 25 color noise.
Interesting update!
I am starting to think they might have indeed knocked back some noise in this update.
First is D700, ISO 1600, CZ 35/2, F/4 in ACR, standard adjustments, ( 25, .5, 25 ), 25 color noise.
Second is M8, ISO 1250, 28/2, F/4 in ACR, standard adjustments, ( 25, .5, 25) , 25 color noise.
Interesting update!
cam
the need for speed
Isn't that what a gentleman makes towards a lady at a dinner and dance evening?
Not enough to make me buy an M8.2, I'll just keep coughing and "ahem-ing" moments after releasing the shutter
LOL! thank you for the chuckle!
it is making me seriously rethink my strategy of buying a used M8. my "aheming" is pathetic