New M8 Unuseable

[Robert]

I think the M8 being new has still got bugs and hopefully after a while all the problems will be addressed.

The Epson RD-1 has been out quite a while and appears still to have bugs.

 

[RML]

I think the M8 being new has still got bugs and hopefully after a while all the problems will be addressed.

"New" is hardly a licence for a buggy product. It's just that no product is ever completely flawless. The matter is how much you can stand those flaws or not.

The Epson RD-1 has been out quite a while and appears still to have bugs.

Most issues with the R-D1 are mechanical and many can be taken care of by the owner himself. As far as I can tell there are no software or non-mechanical issues with the R-D1, except perhaps on an individual basis. The IR sensitivity of the R-D1 isn't and never was an issue.

 

[Latecomer]

Visited my dealer today, who immediately replaced the faulty system with a new one in the box.

So far so good. It works beautifully.

 

[jaapv]

There are not many companies capable of producing LiIon cells and a couple more putting those cells in a nicely finished plastic shells.

Leica is none of either so the batteries must be from a second source, but it would fit traditional german engineering if they had a special shell designed to fit their body. Designing the battery compartment for an off the shelf battery would be too easy

It is indeed a funny shape; but worse,there are some dedicated electronics inside as well that integrate with the camera electronics. No third-party ones on the horizon,I fear.

 

[jaapv]

Again with the defensive personal attacks Ted?

Nothing anyone could add to "I just bought a $5000 camera and it doesn't work and there are none at the dealer to swap so I'll have to send it to Germany and be without it for perhaps a couple of months while it depreciates and I'm losing interest (or maybe paying interest) on the money I spent " that would blow it out of proportion. It's already at the high end of the disappointment scale I would think.

He simply went to his dealer and it was exchanged. So why the indignation? I must agree with Ted here. It is a bit out of proportion, or at least based on a faulty assumption.

 

[Ben Z]

He simply went to his dealer and it was exchanged. So why the indignation? I must agree with Ted here. It is a bit out of proportion, or at least based on a faulty assumption.

My assumption he wouldn't find another M8 down at his dealer to swap was based on your continual reference to how far back the M8 is wait-listed

 

[jaapv]

You should have read my post that reported that I walked into my dealer and bought a second body off the shelf.

 

[Ben Z]

You should have read my post that reported that I walked into my dealer and bought a second body off the shelf.

So how is it those bodies weren't sold to the next person in line on those dealers' long waiting lists?

 

[RML]

So how is it those bodies weren't sold to the next person in line on those dealers' long waiting lists?

Now you're just looking for an argument.

The M8 is for many not quite the expected God sent. For others, however, it's all they expected and more. I probably will never find out as I can't afford it. But I'm willing to overlook the IR issue, the cost, the filter solution and the scarcety of parts (though not the blobs) and give the camera the benefit of the doubt until I've been able to test run it myself (which is most likely never unless Jaap sends me one for some time to try out ).

 

[jaapv]

So how is it those bodies weren't sold to the next person in line on those dealers' long waiting lists?

They tend to be friendly to customers who are in the habit of dropping off more cash than they can really afford n a regular basis. As a matter of fact these guys happen to be so big (relatively for our small country) that the importer gives them preferential treatment.

 

[Ben Z]

I can't afford it. But I'm willing to overlook the IR issue, the cost, the filter solution and the scarcety of parts

I can't afford a Rolls-Royce, a Boeing 747, a palace in Monaco, or a ticket on the Space Shuttle, so I'm graciously willing to overlook any and all serious issues they may have Unfortunately I do have the $4800 I was all set to spend on the M8, hence my tremendous disappointment at the fact it was born perfect save for a harelip but Leica opted to apply clown makeup instead of doing corrective surgery