New Panasonic Photos

Interesting exercise for a dSLR, but it seems the industry can't get over the "size queen" factor. Do these things have to be so large, other than to set them apart from "dinky consumer" digicams?
 
amateriat said:
Do these things have to be so large, other than to set them apart from "dinky consumer" digicams?
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If they're going to use sensors larger than digicam sensors then physics pretty much dictates the camera has to be larger to give correct rear element to sensor distance, among other things.

Peter
 
If you know the Panasonic LC 1, then you know the size of the body of the L1--it is
quite substantial. As I mentioned in an email to another member, the lens would
look right at home on an R9, and would not look out of place on a Pentax 67.
I can't provide any explanation why this outfit is so large--it certainly commands
attention. And while I find it stunning to look at, it strikes me as a very inefficient design. This may be the largest lens of this effective focal length I've ever seen
(aside, of course, from medium format lenses).

I guess if you have an affinity for both Leicas and Hummers, this is your camera.

Fred
 
Bear in mind that the lens is image stabilized, so there are further electronics in there.
 
Geez - I thought this was RFF.com

Must've stumbled onto the other website.... 😱
 
peterc said:
If they're going to use sensors larger than digicam sensors then physics pretty much dictates the camera has to be larger to give correct rear element to sensor distance, among other things.

Peter
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Not exactly. Some distance is required to accomodate the reflex mirror. The four thirds sensor is pretty small--significantly smaller, for example, than the APSC sensor in the RD-1, which yet operates with a shorter distance between it and the lens' rear element. It's more to do with conveying a certain feel and heft, according to at least one Leica rep.
 
copake_ham said:
Geez - I thought this was RFF.com

Must've stumbled onto the other website.... 😱
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It seems to be part of a frenzy that occurs every time the words 'digital' and 'leica' appear on close proximity.

Peter
 
I don't think the consuming public is dumb. A smaller DSLR (or DRF) with excellent performance as well as handling would do well. I never used to believe in the argument that heft/weight aided in handheld stability, but I've modified that opinion of late. I still prefer a smaller/lighter body over (much) larger/heavier, but there are limits. I prefer the handling of my Oly 35SP over the RC, for example. Yet I like the handling of the XA over the RC. Go figure.

I think that at lease some manufacturers, in the ancient times of the late 60s/early 70s actually did studies on the size and shape of hands, did extended ergonomic studies, etc., BEFORE final design and manufacturing. My sense now is that is considered an unaffordable luxury.
 
vincentbenoit said:
Okay, I found the enjoyable bit: the pop-up flash!

Vincent (shaking his head in disbelief)
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well I got a warm thought of fitting enough TRUSSES to people trying to lift it that I could afford an olive Bessa R2 with LOTS of extra lenses 😀
 
Vincent: I handled the E-300 and it felt very nice to me, somewhat like an OM, better (to me) than the E-1. So I wouldn't judge until you actually have it in your hands. But this lens does look needlessly large. I wonder if it may be a mock-up that will prove to be larger than final production.
 
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