New pic of Pentax FF DSLR

And I think they were absolutely right. The 645 digital cameras are magnificent.

I guess we will see how it all turns out.
 
Addy101 said:
Ehm, I usually use my cameras in aperture priority mode. To me, a "standard shutter speed dial" is a "dumb dial" - for the times that I use manual or speed priority, the speed dial on the top deck is inconvenient when my eye is on the viewfinder. To me, the classic two wheel system Canon/Nikon/Minolta developed in the AF era is the most convenient. Again, this is for my use, YMMV.
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Having a shutter dial up top doesn't mean you have to take your eyes away from the viewfinder. Shutter speed is shown in the viewfinder too. Cameras have done this for decades.

Shawn
 
shawn said:
Having a shutter dial up top doesn't mean you have to take your eyes away from the viewfinder. Shutter speed is shown in the viewfinder too. Cameras have done this for decades.

Shawn
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+1 Yup, an old feature that was considered cutting edge in 1975.
 
Addy101 said:
Ehm, I usually use my cameras in aperture priority mode. To me, a "standard shutter speed dial" is a "dumb dial" - for the times that I use manual or speed priority, the speed dial on the top deck is inconvenient when my eye is on the viewfinder. To me, the classic two wheel system Canon/Nikon/Minolta developed in the AF era is the most convenient. Again, this is for my use, YMMV.
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right! Any dSLR, if Canon, Nikon or Pentax has exactly the same 'thumb' shutter speed dial as this new FF Pentax, or in other words obviously it is exactly the same shutter speed dial as found on this new camera which is the established standard for a dSLR. It had taken me some time to understand that what some are missing on this dSLR is a shutter speed dial as 'used to be the standard' for analogue cameras and which now is found on some retro styled cameras. I don't remember that any Canon or Nikon dSLR has been criticized for it and therefore I am amazed that here it has become a repeated criticism for this Pentax. Would this new dSLR deviate from the established standard of the 'thumb' speed dial of a dSLR it would be much more criticized and imo rightfully so.
 
This is the first Pentax full-frame DSLR, with standard Pentax DSLR control layout, as one should expect.
Don't hold your breath for a Pentax version of the Nikon Df (dLX? ;) ) anytime soon.
Let's see if this one sells first...

Chris
 
I've always liked the handling of the Pentax cameras. You can set everything with one hand.

I enjoyed my K-5, but was really pissed off by the front-focus problem in dim, warm light.

I especially like the Pentax "green button", which gives you a one-click-to-optimum. It resets everything to the best aperture-speed-ISO for the mounted lens, i.e. it sets everything to auto, but leaves you in your preferred mode, so you can then back off manually for your artistic taste or experience.

So, in aperture priority mode, hit green, open up the aperture because you want the background out-of-focus.

This is super useful for manual shooting: You're in manual mode, hit green, increase the shutter time two notches because you're in a back-lit situation. Or, you're in manual mode, and step from the sunny street into the shady market; hit green and to reset, and adjust from the new base.

My biggest worry is that they'll be squashed by the Canikon market dominance, and DSLR sales shrinkage.

My biggest hesitance is that high-end choices like Sigma Art and Zeiss are not releasing Pentax mount lenses.
 
tstermitz said:
...My biggest worry is that they'll be squashed by the Canikon market dominance, and DSLR sales shrinkage.

My biggest hesitance is that high-end choices like Sigma Art and Zeiss are not releasing Pentax mount lenses.
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Yes, interesting that Pentax sees dSLR opportunities in a diminishing market.

On lenses, apparently the third-party lens outfits do not see sufficient sales among Pentax users. Two possibilities: There aren't enough Pentax users, and/or, Pentax users prefer Pentax lenses.

Zeiss offered a line of lenses (made by Cosina) in a few different mounts including Pentax KA, but it appears they only supply Nikon and Canon mounts now. Seven years ago I picked up three of the KA mount lenses, 28 / 50 / 85 ZK and they're good. And big. But generally I prefer Pentax lenses for consistency in ergonomics, and the quality is fine enough at the top of the line that I'm seldom tempted to stray!

So I'm not too concerned that Sigma or Tamron don't supply KAF lenses, I'll surely be content with Pentax offerings.

So good luck to Pentax (er... Ricoh) on their new foray into FF dSLR-land, and may the customers be many and happy!
 
For those interested in this camera, what lenses do you anticipate using, mainly, on a Pentax K-1 (if that's what it'll be called)?

I think I'd be mostly using the Limited series of 31, 43, and 77mm, while many others will be choosing zooms.

Is there reason to hope that M43, M, and K lenses will not have (like on recent cameras, as I understand it) problems with metering the older lenses? So far I have stayed with PKA and PKAF lenses on my Pentax dSLRs, leaving my older lenses on the shelf.

But that has not been terribly limiting, as I have Pentax KAF lenses in 20-35mm, 24mm, 31mm, 35mm, 43mm, 50mm, and 77mm. And manual-focus Voigtlander SL 40 & 58mm and Zeiss ZK lenses in 28, 50, and 85mm, plus Pentax 50 macro and the 2.0/50mm.

But if the camera's metering is friendly and convenient with older lenses, that would open up more and longer lens possibilities, some fine optics.

And, it seems reasonable to assume that the K-1, as the Leica SL, will recognize crop-sensor lenses (DA and TL respectively) and adjust the capture accordingly. Not much point though in using my DA 15mm with a full-frame 24 at hand, same with the crop DA 21mm giving similar angle of view as full-frame 31.
 
One of my concerns has been answered by recent pics of the camera... as on the K-3, the K-1 has the "SR" label on the front, so there is in-body shake reduction / image stabilization even with the larger sensor. Good!

While the basic control layout looks mainly consistent with the K-3, some things have changed... The video/still switch has moved to the top deck, the live view button has moved to the upper left replacing the Play button which is moved to about where the K-3 video switch is. Still two card slots! Still an LCD on the top deck, but smaller to make room for two new control knobs.

There is no in-body flash. There appear to be lines scribed on the focusing screen for a 9-section grid, plus smaller squares and diagonals, and a center circle that's possibly a focusing aid. I'm not too crazy about the crazy articulated rear screen that extends on four struts and swings this way and that... Vulnerable to damage I'd think, and adds weight and quite a lot of thickness to the body.

Camera is larger than the K-3 by 5-10 mm in each dimension. Overall, it appears Pentax is shooting for the pro market with this K-1.
 
The K-1's Cross-Tilt LCD system has all the elegance of two deck chairs mating, but it provides a useful range of articulation.
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It was worth going to dpreview to read this comment! :D

I'm amazed at the price ... how have they done that? :)
 
And I'm really looking forward to reading some real world reviews for this camera ... what it can offer when stacked up against it's Canikon counterparts.
 
important things for me to find out:
1. Sufficiently decent AF compared to competitors
2. Performance of the AF primes: 31, 35, 43, 50, 77 (sweet sweet limited lenses)
3. How the older MF 50 lenses will work. DPR said they tried out the 50 f2 (looked like the M-series) and the results didn't seem to be too promising with the sensor. And it's unlikely they built in the aperture linkage to the body with manual lenses so it will be stop down exposure ughh

I love tilting screens but this one seems a bit overelaborate!
 
Yes nice price! And camera of course! Looks like Ricoh/Pentax is partnering with Tamron to get lens lineup grow faster.
 
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