Hi Guys,
the USA prices
Voigtlander R4A smooth matte paint finish $749
Voigtlander R4M black classic paint finish like R3M $749
take note each camera is offered in one finish only, both new cameras now in stock
new M mount 21/4 P $419
new M mount 25/4 P $379
new M mount 21 and 25 are the same glass as the previous 21 and 25's, in new black lens barrels
similar in looks to the 35/2.5 PII lenses
made primarily for the new R4's, the new M mount 21 and 25 lenses do not include a viewfinder
both are rangefinder coupled, and include round lens hoods
take note the original 25/4 was NOT RF coupled, while the new 25/4 P is RF coupled
while the 25/4 screw mount is discontinued
the 21/4 screw mount stays in production
price wise compared to the previous lenses,
old lenses
21/4 : 339 + 55 for the adapter = $394 including VF
25/4 : 249 + 55 for the adapter = $304 including VF
new lenses
21/4 P 419 + 128 = $547, a $153 increase for the M mount with VF
but only $25 more if you don't need the VF on the R4's
25/4 P 379 + 128 = $507, a $203 increase for the M mount with VF and RF coupling
but only $75 more if you don't need the VF on the R4's
21/4P available mid April
25/4 P available mid May
prices changed several times until Cosina decided upon final price
Stephen
the USA prices
Voigtlander R4A smooth matte paint finish $749
Voigtlander R4M black classic paint finish like R3M $749
take note each camera is offered in one finish only, both new cameras now in stock
new M mount 21/4 P $419
new M mount 25/4 P $379
new M mount 21 and 25 are the same glass as the previous 21 and 25's, in new black lens barrels
similar in looks to the 35/2.5 PII lenses
made primarily for the new R4's, the new M mount 21 and 25 lenses do not include a viewfinder
both are rangefinder coupled, and include round lens hoods
take note the original 25/4 was NOT RF coupled, while the new 25/4 P is RF coupled
while the 25/4 screw mount is discontinued
the 21/4 screw mount stays in production
price wise compared to the previous lenses,
old lenses
21/4 : 339 + 55 for the adapter = $394 including VF
25/4 : 249 + 55 for the adapter = $304 including VF
new lenses
21/4 P 419 + 128 = $547, a $153 increase for the M mount with VF
but only $25 more if you don't need the VF on the R4's
25/4 P 379 + 128 = $507, a $203 increase for the M mount with VF and RF coupling
but only $75 more if you don't need the VF on the R4's
21/4P available mid April
25/4 P available mid May
prices changed several times until Cosina decided upon final price
Stephen
kshapero
South Florida Man
This is going to tough to resist!
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resistance is futile...
NIKON KIU
Did you say Nippon Kogaku
Stephen,
What does "P" stand for in these new lenses?
Any chance of another Nikon RF lens?
Regards,
Kiu
What does "P" stand for in these new lenses?
Any chance of another Nikon RF lens?
Regards,
Kiu
peter_n
Veteran
"P" is probably for Pancake. I don't recall but $749 seems higher than the original quoted price. I think I'll wait...
finkaudio
Newbie
New 25mm
New 25mm
Hi Stephen,
do you know already what frame lines will be shown with the 25mm on M8?
Should be a vey nice lens to be used as a "walking around" solution, but from my experience you need the IR filter and that means coding.
Best regards
Karl-Heinz Fink
New 25mm
Hi Stephen,
do you know already what frame lines will be shown with the 25mm on M8?
Should be a vey nice lens to be used as a "walking around" solution, but from my experience you need the IR filter and that means coding.
Best regards
Karl-Heinz Fink
25/4 P does 24 frameline on the M8
25/4 P does 24 frameline on the M8
the 25/4P brings up the 35/24 frameline on the M8
or the 35/135 framline on other M's
of course on Bessas it makes no difference
since the framelines are manually selected
Stephen
25/4 P does 24 frameline on the M8
the 25/4P brings up the 35/24 frameline on the M8
or the 35/135 framline on other M's
of course on Bessas it makes no difference
since the framelines are manually selected
Stephen
finkaudio said:
Designer
Keven
The new lens outlook looks good!
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looks like this 25 has the same 'wings' that are on the 40.
Andy Aitken
Registered Loser
Aw, crap. I'm just know I'm gonna have to have that new 25mm even though I have the old one. I hate it when that happens!
irq506
just curious
I wonder if that sexy LH-1 Square Hood fit on the new 21 lens? I love that hood makes me feel like a cinematographer!
dostacos
Dan
please put me on the list for the 25MM 
sounds like a nice birthday present to myself just after I get that nice 4M
sounds like a nice birthday present to myself just after I get that nice 4M
R
Rodinal Addict
Guest
Stephen, will you be at the Camera Expo in Carson this Sunday? I'd like to see any samples you may have on hand.
Robin
Robin
photogdave
Shops local
It looks like Canadians finally win! In Vancouver Leo's is going to be selling the R4 bodies for $799 CDN. Cheaper than ordering from the U.S.
I may have to say bye-bye M6, hello R4!
I may have to say bye-bye M6, hello R4!
irq506
just curious
photogdave said:It looks like Canadians finally win! In Vancouver Leo's is going to be selling the R4 bodies for $799 CDN. Cheaper than ordering from the U.S.
I may have to say bye-bye M6, hello R4!
Oh hell yeah, well I guess someones going to get bitten on the ass for being a cocky lone importer..... Ill take mine from Leo if our lone ranger doesnt adjust his prices...
dostacos
Dan
yeah leave the old one on a BESSA LAndy Aitken said:
well at least that is where mine stays all the time.
If Stephen wants a deposit on the 25 it will be on the way today.
I have been taking rolaids and tums and anything else to keep the gas down since I put my money on the 4M so I am good to go
Robin Harrison
aka Harrison Cronbi
Interesting. The UK-based Robert White site lists:
"Coming soon...
New Voigtlander 21mm f4 P and 25mm f4 P (M mount) lenses....contact us now to be added to a waiting list.
21mm F4 VM P lens with hood (no Viewfinder) £190
25mm F4 VM P lens with hood (no Viewfinder) £185
Both lenses are rangefinder coupled, more information coming soon..."
I cannot believe those prices given the US equivalents. Bargaintastic. Great news about the M8 framelines, too. I sense this will become my standard lens!
"Coming soon...
New Voigtlander 21mm f4 P and 25mm f4 P (M mount) lenses....contact us now to be added to a waiting list.
21mm F4 VM P lens with hood (no Viewfinder) £190
25mm F4 VM P lens with hood (no Viewfinder) £185
Both lenses are rangefinder coupled, more information coming soon..."
I cannot believe those prices given the US equivalents. Bargaintastic. Great news about the M8 framelines, too. I sense this will become my standard lens!
gustav[] pEña
gustav[] pEña
Sweet. I think ill buy a r4m whit the 21 p.
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are the newer versions significantly shorter than the old versions?
i just read on cvug that the zm 21 is gonna cut into the viewfinder quite a bit. i'd hate to spend that kind of money for a frustrating experience.
i wonder if the cv 21 would be a better choice?
i just read on cvug that the zm 21 is gonna cut into the viewfinder quite a bit. i'd hate to spend that kind of money for a frustrating experience.
i wonder if the cv 21 would be a better choice?
sockeyed
Well-known
Hey Joe,
I had the old 21/4, and I handled Tom A's new 21/4 pancake on the R4M this weekend. To my eyes, it was about the same size, or at least not noticeably smaller. Both have the same threaded round hood.
The new one is prettier, though, and has better ergonomics.
It protrudes very little into the R4M's beautiful viewfinder.
I had the old 21/4, and I handled Tom A's new 21/4 pancake on the R4M this weekend. To my eyes, it was about the same size, or at least not noticeably smaller. Both have the same threaded round hood.
The new one is prettier, though, and has better ergonomics.
It protrudes very little into the R4M's beautiful viewfinder.