New Summarit - Puts review part II

[Harry Lime]

http://www.imx.nl/photo/lenstest/summarit_lenses_part_two_ja.html

 

[veraikon]

Part III
http://www.imx.nl/photo/lenstest/summarit_lenses_part_three_.html

 

[BNF]

Part III
http://www.imx.nl/photo/lenstest/summarit_lenses_part_three_.html

"The Summarit is optically no substitute for the Apo-Summicron and in the ideal case one needs both. "

Ok, I'll buy and haul around two 90s. :bang:

 

[cmogi10]

Boy that's a head scratcher.

I'l leave Putt's reviews to someone else, I can't find anything there that would influence me in a lens purchase.

 

[Rob-F]

I was sorry to read that my 90mm thin Tele-Elmarit did not stand "the test of the times." (What was that test?) Too bad, it was a good travel lens. I'll sell it immediately. Not!

 

[retow]

"The Summarit is optically no substitute for the Apo-Summicron and in the ideal case one needs both. "

Ok, I'll buy and haul around two 90s. :bang:

Good idea, one for each shoulder, keeps one more in balance. 😀

As far as lenses are cocerned, I'm usually highly susceptive to GAS attacks. But whatever I read about the new Summarits = no GAS on my side.

 

[Turtle]

Or you could buy a ZM planar/Biogon etc 😉

 

[tom_uk]

I imagine that Erwin Puts was suggesting that, ideally, the Summarit could be carryied around for general use, but that when the absolutely best performance, at the widest aperture, was what was wanted then the Summicron would be a better solution. Whether the photographer wanted to actually carry both lenses, all the time, would be their decision, of course. if they had them, which most wouldn't.

(As an aside, I do sometimes get the feeling that people read Erwin's reviews and then jump on the slightest thing in them that he may have expressed awkwardly. As I understand it he's not a native english-speaker.)

 

[tomasis]

Summarit would be good by using iso 400 film and slow shutter times if one can live with f2.5. If I had to use the best available summicron, I don't think I could get better sharper pics out due grain, movement.

so 90mm summarit sounds very appealing for me. Hexanon's mechanical design left me quite disappointed.

50mm looks very cool due compactness. I'll see if I like the signature of this to replace any Elmar 😛

 

[Graham Line]

Lots of words, not so many pictures. I'll have to wait until the AP test report reaches the west coast here.

 

[terrafirmanada]

Does anyone here even have any of these?

 

[raid]

I would take such reports with a grain of salt. The purpose of such write-ups may not match your individual goals in photography and lens shopping.

 

[BNF]

....
As far as lenses are cocerned, I'm usually highly susceptive to GAS attacks. But whatever I read about the new Summarits = no GAS on my side.

Me too.

As I'm on a buying spree lately, I'd be a susceptable to buying at least one of the 4 lenses. I did check out a 75mm a month ago or so. It was, from a build and tangible standpoint, as much as I expect from a Leica lens, so they cleared that small but important hurdle. (I also think my new 21mm Biogon is every bit Leica's equal in build.)

But, something doesn't draw me to consider these lenses. I bought a new 90mm Elmarit instead of the maginally faster 90mm Summarit for equal money.



I hope that the lenses sell. I hope that they draw new blood into the fold. They need to. But, for me, who formerly had to have the latest and greatest, I have little interest. .... maybe had they been priced more agressively... but even then, I have the idea that they are "spec'd for digital". (I also passed on the new Elmarit 28ASPH and bought a new Elmarit 28 non instead - same reason.)

 

[tom_uk]

I've bought one of these (50mm) to go with the M6TTL I bought at the same time. I had the choice of either a s/h Summicron for a bit more money, a s/h Summilux for a lot more money, new examples of these, or the Summitar. I definitely wanted 50mm, btw, so I wasn't looking for, and don't know what was available in, other focal lengths. I definitely wanted to buy from the dealer so I could look at and feel the lenses, so buying mail-order wasn't what I wanted to do. I recognise that this limited my choice to whatever the dealer had at the time (see the choices above) but I was happy with that - the dealer concerned is a Leica Premier dealer so I was confident they'd have a reasonable selection.

Reasons for choosing the Summitar?
a) I don't need really fast lenses, so only having f2.5 isn't a problem for me.
b) I wanted something small. Looking at the specs of successive Summicron & Summilux lenses it's clear that while quality may well have improved, size and weight have also increased (probably inevitable). The Summitar is smaller than the (Leica) alternatives, and that was a plus point;
c) although smaller, it still has the feel and heft of a Leica lens - defintiely not a cardboard replica;
d) I wanted to buy something new! - especially as the camera, bought at the same time, was s/h. That may be shallow of me, but but was what I wanted. And new Summicrons and Summiluxes are out of my reach.

So that's why I bought one. I've put a couple of rolls of Velvia 100 through the camera and will get the slides later this week, but that means that at the moment I don't have any results to talk about. However, I'm confident that any problems with the images will be down to the photographer, not the glass.

In fact that's a good admission to make - I am so far away from hitting the limits that the Summitar imposes that the differences between them and equivalent limits imposed by a Summicron are irrelevant to me.