New to Digital??

[jaapv]

Now I wonder what percentage of future M8 users are new to digital. Don't be ashamed to admit it, all old pro's went through a steep learning curve

 

[Gid]

I regressed to film from digital 🙂 As far as RF is concerned the RD-1 was my first foray.

 

[rolo]

I've been playing with PhotoShop since Version 3 was launched.

 

[jaapv]

It is interesting that there is a 100% " expert" score up to now. That would indicate that Leica is indeed pulling in customers from other digital makes, even if these camera's are used beside rangefinders - and not eating into its own film-shooting customer base. It also makes less likelyhood of beginner-user error generating bad publicity. But then, this forum is certainly not a representative sample.

 

[zuikologist]

But then, this forum is certainly not a representative sample.

That part is certainly true 🙂 🙂 🙂

 

[PeterL]

commodore 64, yeah

commodore 64, yeah

Hi,

My first image processing was done in a program called StarPainter on the Commodore 64, probably in 1988 or 1987. It wasn't exactly image processing as we know it now (USM ? What ?) but I had a lot of fun. I was 15 or 16 back then 🙂

Nowadays, my default request for a film is: develop & scan. I don't have a digital camera, but all my newly shot pictures get scanned. Quality is fairly low at about 2MP only, but it's enough for mailing to friends and web publishing. For all the rest, I have the negatives, d'oh ! 😛


Peter.

 

[mad_boy]

Well, I'm the odd one out then. (choosing the who cares option).

In my opinion that is not shared by many others, there are two distinct art-forms: painting and photography.

Painting is making pictures from imagination and objects/items can be brought together that have never been in real life, or that possibly do not even exist.

Photography on the other hand is capturing reality, and all the advancement over the years has been in doing this better. (Sharper lens means more truefull image).

To me the two do not match.
To me the art in photography is to get the best shot of reality. I do not spend my time in photoshop to remove a power line from the background, I spend my time ensuring it is not there in the first place.
(I do correct dead pixels or dust, i.e. camera or film defects)

To me the art in painting (photoshopping) is to change reality in order to make a nice picture. But then, why to start with your own pictures? Perfectly fine IMHO to scan some magazines and work on those.

Concluding to one either pictures reality or one creates his/hers own reality.
IMHO photography is all about the former and hence photographic images should not be tampered with.
(Yes you guessed right, I do not use filters either)
I do not expect others to have the same opinions, and salute every one who goes out and takes pictures. This is just how I see things.

Mad_boy

 

[jaapv]

Well, I'm the odd one out then. (choosing the who cares option).

In my opinion that is not shared by many others, there are two distinct art-forms: painting and photography.

Painting is making pictures from imagination and objects/items can be brought together that have never been in real life, or that possibly do not even exist.

Photography on the other hand is capturing reality, and all the advancement over the years has been in doing this better. (Sharper lens means more truefull image).

To me the two do not match.
To me the art in photography is to get the best shot of reality. I do not spend my time in photoshop to remove a power line from the background, I spend my time ensuring it is not there in the first place.
(I do correct dead pixels or dust, i.e. camera or film defects)

To me the art in painting (photoshopping) is to change reality in order to make a nice picture. But then, why to start with your own pictures? Perfectly fine IMHO to scan some magazines and work on those.

Concluding to one either pictures reality or one creates his/hers own reality.
IMHO photography is all about the former and hence photographic images should not be tampered with.
(Yes you guessed right, I do not use filters either)
I do not expect others to have the same opinions, and salute every one who goes out and takes pictures. This is just how I see things.

Mad_boy

But- if you really reason this through, the only permissible camera in this context can be a pinhole camera, as any lens distorts. But I am sure Plato would agree with you 🙂

 

[JonasYip]

I was all digital (~2000) before I went Leica (~2002). I've been shooting both film and digital all along, but all the film gets scanned so pretty much an all digital backend. The M8 would fit right in...

 

[JonasYip]

Oh yeah, my first scanned photo post-processing (since others are mentioning it) was with ImageStudio back in.... 1987 or 1988? But it certainly wasn't part of the regular workflow at that point...

 

[JohnL]

I got my first digital camera (Sony Mavica) in 1997 + or - 1 year. It produced VHS-size JPGs on a floppy disk and had the ergonomics of an avocado pear. The first camera I had that produced RAW images and lead me into Photoshop and similar realms was a Canon G5 c.2004 which I still have and use often.

 

[Woody Campbell]

Looks like we've got a bunch of digital shooters who've been dying to take their Leica gear out of the closet.

 

[rpsawin]

Based on the "buy in" of $4,725 for the M8 body and then $125 per lens for the 6 bit coding (probably closer to $200 when you factor in shipping) I am going to pass. While I enjoy and appreciate digital imagining my first love is analog b&w photography. For me there are less expensive and equally viable alternatives to going digital. No, it won't be a "Leica" experience but I'm sure I'll live.

Bob

 

[jaapv]

Based on the "buy in" of $4,725 for the M8 body and then $125 per lens for the 6 bit coding (probably closer to $200 when you factor in shipping) I am going to pass. While I enjoy and appreciate digital imagining my first love is analog b&w photography. For me there are less expensive and equally viable alternatives to going digital. No, it won't be a "Leica" experience but I'm sure I'll live.

Bob

Not the subject of this thread. I(and undoubtely many others) will be happy to discuss this with you elsewhere

 

[rpsawin]

Not the subject of this thread. I(and undoubtely many others) will be happy to discuss this with you elsewhere

Pardon me then Jaapv. I was mislead by the following post and thought you were expanding the subject:

"It is interesting that there is a 100% " expert" score up to now. That would indicate that Leica is indeed pulling in customers from other digital makes, even if these camera's are used beside rangefinders - and not eating into its own film-shooting customer base. It also makes less likelyhood of beginner-user error generating bad publicity. But then, this forum is certainly not a representative sample.
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Jaap"

So to stay "on topic" No, i am not new to digital.

Bob

 

[jaapv]

Just trying to stop the thread from turning into yet another "film vs digital" or "Leica is expensive yes/no" one. No hard feelings I hope.

 

[Oh Two]

New to Digital?

New to Digital?

No way, I go back to Photshop 2. Digital to me means being able to print color at home. However, I almost always start from film if I'm serious. If I think the work in front of me is more business like than arty, or that I will have to waste a lot of shots then I choose digital.

 

[Gabriel M.A.]

Digital photography in this context hasn't been around "for ages", so I can't properly cast my vote.

I've been shooting digital for almost four years. Perhaps in this double-bacon cheeseburger digital world, that's two epochs.

 

[rpsawin]

Just trying to stop the thread from turning into yet another "film vs digital" or "Leica is expensive yes/no" one. No hard feelings I hope.

No hard feelings at all Jaapv. I did not intend another f-vs-d thread. I think that horse has been beat to death too many times. 🙂

Bob

 

[jaapv]

Digital photography in this context hasn't been around "for ages", so I can't properly cast my vote.

I've been shooting digital for almost four years. Perhaps in this double-bacon cheeseburger digital world, that's two epochs.

Well- five digital generations at least. I followed the last three. It feels like ages to me....