paapoopa
Established
I am getting my first FSU camera.
having a hard time deciding whether to get a fed3 or a zorki4 or 4k
i wanted something small and better built so i can just throw it inside my bag and carry it around.
and for the quality how does the 2 compare?
anyone to enlighten me?
having a hard time deciding whether to get a fed3 or a zorki4 or 4k
i wanted something small and better built so i can just throw it inside my bag and carry it around.
and for the quality how does the 2 compare?
anyone to enlighten me?
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davelrods
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Hard for me to say, though I have both
Hard for me to say, though I have both
a Fed3 and a Zorki 4. The Fed 3 is very smooth and has a compact feel to me and everything seems to be nice and loose and smooth working. The Zorki 4 has a larger viewfinder that is very attractive by comparison. I've had two of them. One quit winding the shutter for unknown reasons. The other is sort of tight, but both had accurate rangefinders and seem to have good consistent shutters. I think probably with these cameras the best one is the one that works best and you happen to have it. That luck can come with any model or completely elude you. I have had 9 so far and only a couple of them seem to be beyond dissatisfaction. That said, I am engaged in the search for the one that is just the best of everything. My thinking I should have little trouble selling the rest if they are proper. I would think sellling Russian cameras to Americans from here in the USA should be infinately easier than trying to get folks to deal with you when you live in the Ukraine or Russian and can't even get Paypal payments without a third party handling them. So I will continue my search and when I find the perfect one I will sell the others along the way. And they will be the best I can make them with my limited knowledge.
That said, I honestly wonder why sellers of these cameras don't have a roll of film to go with them as a guarantee that the buyer is at least getting a viable camera right up front. The native sellers are giving us wonderful pictures of the cameras. Why not give us wonderful pictures taken with the cameras too. They would be easy to post and offer the URL's for.
I can get a scan disk with developing and scanning for $4.26 at Walmart. You want to see what this camera does, then here is the film I shot with it.
Some easy things, the lenses are superb. Nobody debates that. You are going to get some version of Jupiter or Industar 50mm lens and, unless it is a piece of junk, it is going to take wonderfully sharp pictures. That is one debate out of the way and a most important one, in my mind. Second, skipping the tiny Fed or Zorki one models, is going to save you a world of trouble with nasty film loading and tight mechanics that haven't had a spot of oil for 50 years. Making something as small as those tiny cameras is tough, but I think doubly tough fifty years ago. Get one of the open back cameras that are easy to load and easy to see what you have without disassembly and large enough to design and put together without a mystery hidden in closed spaces. The little cameras are luring little gems, but trouble on a popcycle stick if they come with problems. The larger stuff is often quite smooth and quite robust. I think you are on the right track with the two you are currently looking at.
Hard for me to say, though I have both
a Fed3 and a Zorki 4. The Fed 3 is very smooth and has a compact feel to me and everything seems to be nice and loose and smooth working. The Zorki 4 has a larger viewfinder that is very attractive by comparison. I've had two of them. One quit winding the shutter for unknown reasons. The other is sort of tight, but both had accurate rangefinders and seem to have good consistent shutters. I think probably with these cameras the best one is the one that works best and you happen to have it. That luck can come with any model or completely elude you. I have had 9 so far and only a couple of them seem to be beyond dissatisfaction. That said, I am engaged in the search for the one that is just the best of everything. My thinking I should have little trouble selling the rest if they are proper. I would think sellling Russian cameras to Americans from here in the USA should be infinately easier than trying to get folks to deal with you when you live in the Ukraine or Russian and can't even get Paypal payments without a third party handling them. So I will continue my search and when I find the perfect one I will sell the others along the way. And they will be the best I can make them with my limited knowledge.
That said, I honestly wonder why sellers of these cameras don't have a roll of film to go with them as a guarantee that the buyer is at least getting a viable camera right up front. The native sellers are giving us wonderful pictures of the cameras. Why not give us wonderful pictures taken with the cameras too. They would be easy to post and offer the URL's for.
I can get a scan disk with developing and scanning for $4.26 at Walmart. You want to see what this camera does, then here is the film I shot with it.
Some easy things, the lenses are superb. Nobody debates that. You are going to get some version of Jupiter or Industar 50mm lens and, unless it is a piece of junk, it is going to take wonderfully sharp pictures. That is one debate out of the way and a most important one, in my mind. Second, skipping the tiny Fed or Zorki one models, is going to save you a world of trouble with nasty film loading and tight mechanics that haven't had a spot of oil for 50 years. Making something as small as those tiny cameras is tough, but I think doubly tough fifty years ago. Get one of the open back cameras that are easy to load and easy to see what you have without disassembly and large enough to design and put together without a mystery hidden in closed spaces. The little cameras are luring little gems, but trouble on a popcycle stick if they come with problems. The larger stuff is often quite smooth and quite robust. I think you are on the right track with the two you are currently looking at.
paapoopa
Established
fed 2 and mir
fed 2 and mir
just read about fed2 and mir
http://www.mattdentonphoto.com/cameras/mir.html
http://www.mattdentonphoto.com/cameras/fed_2.html
they seems pretty nice as well especially the size of the mir
now i am in a more diliema
fed 2 and mir
just read about fed2 and mir
http://www.mattdentonphoto.com/cameras/mir.html
http://www.mattdentonphoto.com/cameras/fed_2.html
they seems pretty nice as well especially the size of the mir
now i am in a more diliema
brachal
Refrigerated User
See the "Selecting a FSU Camera Beginners Guide" sticky at the top of the FSU forum page.
rbiemer
Unabashed Amateur
I still think the first choice for some one just getting into these cameras should not be which camera but should be which seller.
That said, as well as the sticky referred to by Bill, I would suggest you also read this thread:
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73598
These camera are a lot of fun, I think, but can also be frustrating as well. And even both at the same time.
Welcome aboard!
Rob
That said, as well as the sticky referred to by Bill, I would suggest you also read this thread:
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73598
These camera are a lot of fun, I think, but can also be frustrating as well. And even both at the same time.
Welcome aboard!
Rob
wolves3012
Veteran
The FED 2 is usually reckoned to be one of the most reliable FSUs. No slow speeds but a wide-base, accurate RF and a simple construction. They are also mostly of an age when FSUs were better made. They also look rather nice!
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Ummmm.... To quote HAL, Sorry, Dave. Some of us do debate it. Eapecially with the lenses at full bore. The best of them are quite good. But not exactly in modern ASPH territory.
To answer the OP, I've always liked the Zorkii 4K most as a body.
And quite honestly, if you're any good, your pics will look good with any of the lenses, even though they are pre-war Zeiss designs for the most part. Just steer clear of test charts.
Tashi delek,
R.
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