cloneroom
Member
O.K for those off you who may or may not know, Fuji earlier this year unveiled a 120 Medium format rangefinder. This was a huge surprise and gained allot of attention . Well it is official and Voigtlander have announced the BESSA 3 on the following website.
www.voigtlaender.com/
BOTH the FUJI & VOIGTLADER will be releasing the same model (produced by Cosina). The first release scheduled by Voigtlader as the "Bessa 3" in BLACK is around April 2009. Followed mid year by Fuji, a silver Fuji 6x7variety(Japan Only) Both Cameras are the same except for color. So yes its something to be excited about.
ONE IMPORTANT feature apparent when looking at the interior of the Voigtlander when loading the film. There is a 6x7 or 6x6 switch on the inner body. So square or landscape, who could ask for more. I am assuming the Fuji will have the same feature.
So that's the news until I have more infoe enjoy the pics....
http://flickr.com/groups/fujirangefinders/discuss/72157611275516585/
www.voigtlaender.com/
BOTH the FUJI & VOIGTLADER will be releasing the same model (produced by Cosina). The first release scheduled by Voigtlader as the "Bessa 3" in BLACK is around April 2009. Followed mid year by Fuji, a silver Fuji 6x7variety(Japan Only) Both Cameras are the same except for color. So yes its something to be excited about.
ONE IMPORTANT feature apparent when looking at the interior of the Voigtlander when loading the film. There is a 6x7 or 6x6 switch on the inner body. So square or landscape, who could ask for more. I am assuming the Fuji will have the same feature.
So that's the news until I have more infoe enjoy the pics....
http://flickr.com/groups/fujirangefinders/discuss/72157611275516585/
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John Robertson
Well-known
I hope The Bessa 3 will also be offered in silver, like the original Bessas.
johnwnyc
Member
Eric T
Well-known
The problem, of course, will be price. At a rumored $3000 a piece, this may be a tough sell in the 2009 economy.
Pablito
coco frío
Well if they were REALLY clever they'd figure out a way to switch from 4.5x6 to 6x6 to 6x7 mid-roll, sort of like the Xpan (without wasting film). Sure it's easier with 35mm film which has sprockets for moving the film into more precise alignment with the film gate, but so what? Yes, I know the Xpan is motorized.
<-- Just being ornery.
<-- Just being ornery.
mh2000
Well-known
if they were really really clever, they would get it to shoot 6x9.
whitecat
Lone Range(find)er
Even at 2K they will miss the boat.
Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
$3k?!?!?!?!
Nando
Well-known
RF-Addict
Well-known
Someone throws out $3K on an internet forum and everybody takes it for granted. Nowhere does it say in the attachments that the price is 3K - in fact, on the German website it clearly states that the price is not yet determint - so relax, everybody!
Chriscrawfordphoto
Real Men Shoot Film.
It'll be $5000. It is, after all, medium format so it is worth more than those little 35mm Leicas!
gb hill
Veteran
I think $1000 will be asking too much.
vdonovan
Vince Donovan
FUJI TAKE NOTE: Discount the camera and you will sell lots and lots of FILMMMMMM! Yesssss! Give man a fish and he eats for a day. Give man a nice film camera and YOU will eat for years to come as he burns through film.
hiromu
Established
If those are the price range, then I will have to pass... I was hoping <$1500...
buckpago
Established
I dont think that they will sell it for 3k... do the math.
voigt never had a 3k film camera body.
their top of the line lens cost around 1.5k.
camera like bessa 3 are less expensive too produce.
they have less parts and they have bigger parts which is easier to produce unlike on their 135 cameras. lens of medium formats are also easier to make than 135.
perhaps the fuji version will be more expensive for the reason that it is a japan use only status.
voigt never had a 3k film camera body.
their top of the line lens cost around 1.5k.
camera like bessa 3 are less expensive too produce.
they have less parts and they have bigger parts which is easier to produce unlike on their 135 cameras. lens of medium formats are also easier to make than 135.
perhaps the fuji version will be more expensive for the reason that it is a japan use only status.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
I don't think Cosina have got to where they are by overpricing their products ... if it was a Zeiss it may cost $3000 but I'd be surprised at more than $1500 from this company.
It's also a very simple camera and when you consider the price of their flagship R4*/R3* series it would be unlikely that they would expect anyone to pay more than twice the price of the afore mentioned Bessas. If they do it will bomb and they'll be collecting dust on dealer's shelves for years to come!
It's also a very simple camera and when you consider the price of their flagship R4*/R3* series it would be unlikely that they would expect anyone to pay more than twice the price of the afore mentioned Bessas. If they do it will bomb and they'll be collecting dust on dealer's shelves for years to come!
Fred Burton
Well-known
They will have to set the price pretty high. The market for such a camera must be pretty small.
Chriscrawfordphoto
Real Men Shoot Film.
Cost of production never seems to make a difference in camera prices. Basically, if it is for photography, you have to bend over to get it. Look at the sensor brushes for digital cameras that cost pennies to make and sell for $50 or more. Or plastic bodied digital crap-cam SLRs that costs nearly $1000. I won't be surprised to see it sell for $3000, really.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
I can't really see that the market for this camera would be a lot smaller than it is for the R4A ... that's a pretty specialised tool when you think about it, although it does have a commonality with other Bessas. I think Cosina's ability to survive and thrive in a market that is just a slice of a slice after all is impressive. They are very astute and will be well aware of the pitfalls of overpricing such an item in what they know is a very limited market!
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Krosya
Konicaze
Well, let's see. A good vintage folder in a good condition goes for $500-1500. Give or take. Some more rare ones even more. Bessa II with heliar in clean condition can be found on ebay for over 1K. What other folding cameras are there? Some Fuji 645? I think it will be a collectors camera, selling for around 2-2.3K, limitied production. People that want these things - already pay as much for the folders. They will buy this one as well. It's like Zeiss 85/2 lens - very expensive yet a few people buy it anyway, while there other cheaper and about as good alternatives. Collector's item, collector's price. On a used market they will become more affordable, of course. Plus while lens says "Heliar" - we dont really know how well it will perform.
Me - I dont think I'll buy one, unless it(against my logic) will sell for under 1K. but than again - I already have a couple real vintage folders that I really like, so it's not like I have to have this one.
Me - I dont think I'll buy one, unless it(against my logic) will sell for under 1K. but than again - I already have a couple real vintage folders that I really like, so it's not like I have to have this one.