New Voigtlander c.s. 21mm f/4 p worth waiting for?

jeffdkennel

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Anyone heard much about this new lens compared with the L mount version? Haven't found any reviews or samples of it in use...thought someone here might have.
I'm debating whether or not to wait for it to come out next week or just get the L mount version w/ the adapter.

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Jeff
 
well, for me the killer would be the fact that you don't get a V/F with the new one, which makes the cost of the package a lot more.

Can't see the advantage of an M-mount in this focal length - the LTM version works fine, just leave the adapter on. DOF is plenty to cover any variation in adapter thickness.
 
It may be better even though they it say it'll be the same. It happens with a lot of products. I'm hoping for better corner performance. That's what put me of the CV 21mm..
 
marbrink said:
It may be better even though they it say it'll be the same. It happens with a lot of products. I'm hoping for better corner performance. That's what put me of the CV 21mm..
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Is there a problem with the current version? I’m just about to buy a 21 and that is the front runner
 
Sparrow,
It's a good, compact and sharp lens, but not in the corners.
Both the Leica and the Zeiss 21mm's are a lot better and a stop faster, but they also cost a lot of money and aren't as compact.
 
marbrink said:
Sparrow,
It's a good, compact and sharp lens, but not in the corners.
Both the Leica and the Zeiss 21mm's are a lot better and a stop faster, but they also cost a lot of money and aren't as compact.
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Thanks

Do you know where I can find a comparative test?
 
There isn't a test that I know of, but I just bought the original 21 with my new R4. The results were terrific ans well exceed the cost of this lens. No question that the ZM and Leica models may be better, but unless you shoot this wide more than 50% of the time why would you need to invest in such an expensive alternative?


I think based on my experience you would have a very difficult time seeing the major differences in these lenses until you go past 8 X 10.

The original 21 is a great performer for the money and to me the M mount wasn't worth waiting for.......................

Sherm
 
As mentioned, the newer version will be the same optical design as the current, and comes w/o a VF. I think it is just a strategy to justify a price increase, since the current price is really a bargain in my opinion.
 
marbrink said:
At http://www.reidreviews.com, but you have to subscribe to be able to read them. I also have to say that the tests were made with a M8 and not on film.
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Thanks but the crop would mask the corners unfortunately, I’d been looking for a review to confirm/inform my choice, the speed is an issue that I’m still unsure about
 
Here's a review (link) that compares the CV21 to the Elmarit.

I used the CV21 for a while, then upgraded to the Avenon (now defunct) for the f2.8 max aperture, then finally up to a pre-Asph Elmarit, which is clearly superior.

That said, the CV 21 is remarkably good, and sharp enough on the R-D1.

There are some examples in my gallery.

I stick by my previous opinion - unless you know that the M-mount version is improved, I'd go for the LTM version, as the V/F makes it much easier to sell on when you want to upgrade (you'll need another V/F for the R-D1 anyway; I got the CV 21D finder, and it's very good, but I think Robert White are reporting it as out of stock now)

good luck! :)
 
i doubt that the m mount is 'improved' as it is the same optical unit in an mount.
as to price, remember that with the m mount there is no need for the $55 cv adapter to use on an m mount camera.
 
The lenses are optically the same, from what I know, but the build quality and ergonomics are somewhat improved on the new model (I've handled both). And as Joe says, you don't need to pay $55 for an adapter.
 
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