New Zeiss Ikon Rangefinder

[rover]

Dingo, you would have to compare each lens to see how their sizes compare, but the new ZI camera is actually just about the same size as the Leica MP and more or less the R3a too.

ZI is 138x78x32mm and 500g
R3a is 135.5x81x33.5mm and 430g
MP is 138x77x38mm and 600g

I suspect that the same will be true of the lenses.

 

[Doug]

Douglas Sharp visited the booth at Photokina and posted a few pics of the new Zeiss Ikon and lenses (even the first view I've seen of the back): http://gallery.leica-users.org/Photokina/Zeiss_Ikon00080?full=1

 

[SolaresLarrave]

CLICK HERE for a detailed narrative of the experience of handling a Zeiss Ikon. It's Lutz Konnerman's post in Photo.net. He claims the lenses are compatible with Leica and adds that the projected price is...

<drumroll>

1800 euros.

Bang!!! :bang:

Gentlemen, start your savings accounts!! 🙂

 

[rover]

I just read a projection of $1,800 to $2,200 (USD). I can't say that I am surprised.

I don't think I will be saving, I will probably be calling Mr. Gandy and getting a 6 month head start of learning with a new R3a.

The lenses though, lets see where they land as far as price goes.

 

[Kris]

Projection price of $1800-$2200? Puuhh! I think I will wait for Bessa R4A or R5A or whatever it is gonna be called.

Back to original plan then. Who wants a 50/1.5 and 35/2.5? I need to raise funds for 40/1.4. 😀

 

[peter_n]

That's pretty close to an M7. No way! 🙄

 

[rover]

I looked at the sizes of some of the Zeiss lenses, and they are larger, but lighter than their Leica competitors.

35/2:
ZM 240g, 54mm long and 43mm filter ring
M 255g, 34.5mm and 39mm

28/2.8:
ZM 220g, 51mm and 46mm
M 260g, 41.4mm and 46mm

50/2:
ZM 210g, 51mm and 43mm
M 240g, 43.5mm and 39mm

 

[JohnL]

I haven't yet seen what are the frameline options on this camera, and whether they are autoselected by the lens or if there is a manual selection lever a la CV. Does anyone know?
Also, What is the viewfinder magnification?

 

[Dingo]

Not totally wrong of being sceptical to this camera, Stephen Gandy said the one shown in Photokina is a non-working model.

BTW, Stephen also said the 15/2.8 is almost 4X bigger than the CV15/4.5 ! That means it is impossible to take it for travelling.

 

[Socke]

That's pretty close to an M7. No way! 🙄

As I live in the land of high camera prices, 1800 - 2200$ is half what you pay for a M7 here.
I have to find out, what makes a camera cheaper the farther it is from Solms.

 

[Doug]

The estimated $1800-$2000 range was in Germany including the 17% VAT. Prices in the US should be less. But it'll have to be priced to suck business away from Leica while not so low as to grab too much from Voigtlander. 🙂

 

[peter_n]

I have to find out, what makes a camera cheaper the farther it is from Solms.

Good question, Socke. A couple of weeks ago there was a LNIB Leica M7, a few months old, selling for $1750 on photo.net. Current gray market price for a new M7 in NYC is $2300. Those are the prices on the east coast of the US, the west coast may be different.

 

[peter_n]

And for those of you who fancy a BLACK Zeiss Ikon:

I wanna paint it black baby, black baby, black, black, black... The Rolling Stones

 

[Designer]

Both color look great!😀
Especially w/. the Biogon.

 

[GeneW]

I find this one handsome camera. Esp the black body. I just noticed for the first time that it has a Leica CL type film rewind on the bottom of the cam. Good place for it.

AND, the strap lugs are on the side of the camera where god intended them. Hear that Bessa?? 😉

Gene

 

[rover]

Fingers crossed that the lenses will be priced below the stratosphere.

 

[back alley]

very handsome indeed!


i do not need another addiction i do not need another addiction i do not need another addiction i do not need another addiction...

joe

 

[Huck Finn]

I haven't yet seen what are the frameline options on this camera, and whether they are autoselected by the lens or if there is a manual selection lever a la CV. Does anyone know?
Also, What is the viewfinder magnification?

John -

The viewfinder magnification is .74. The frameline options on the new Zeiss Ikon are 28/85, 35, 50. Interestingly, they are automatically selected with a manual override. Here is the statement on the ZeissIon website:

". . . bright line frames activated by lens type used. . . . Separate frameline selection lever for manual frame selection independent of mounted lens."

Huck

 

[Flinor]

The camera looks very nice and it's a shame that they can't call it the Contax IIIB, but as intrigued as I am I need another film camera, especially a new one, like the proverbial hole in the head. BUT, did anyone else pick up the allusion to a future digital on that body? Now that might even convince me to try electrons instead of cellulose.

 

[Flinor]

The camera looks very nice and it's a shame that they can't call it the Contax IIIB, but as intrigued as I am I need another film camera, especially a new one, like the proverbial hole in the head. BUT, did anyone else pick up the allusion to a future digital on that body? Now that might even convince me to try electrons instead of cellulose.