grantray
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Zeiss yanked the links. Did anyone do a screen grab of the new 21 so it can be reposted in the thread? Also, I can't see the classic 21. Can you repost that, Frank?
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Nachkebia
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phototone
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Sonnar2 said:There is a history of Zeiss Biogons 4.5/21 since 1953 (Contax RF) and Distagons 4/18 since 1967 (Contarex line). I wonder if these lenses are remakes of the historical designs.
cheers Frank
I have a 21mm Biogon in classic Contax RF mount. The rear element almost touches the shutter. I doubt any new extreme-wide-angle will be designed with the rear elements projecting back that far into the shutter-box.
phototone
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thurows said:What I want to know is where were these in the 60s, 70s 80s and 90s? Why the push for manual focus leses from Zeiss now? I wonder if it's because Nikon is dropping their own line of manual focus lenses.
You bet it is because Zeiss sees a "niche" they can fill.
Back in the time periods you mention, Zeiss had several manufacturers ordering lenses from Zeiss. They are now gone. Zeiss has had to take the bull by the horns and start releasing lenses themselves.
So to summarize former Zeiss cleints
Hasselblad (now Fuji lenses)
Roelli
Contax (Kyocera closed down camera production)
there may be more I forgot to mention.
Looks like Zeiss killed the page with the info on it.
Sonnar2
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rxmd
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Frank,
which version is this? The one for the Contax? The Contarex version didn't have an aperture ring AFAIK.
Philipp
which version is this? The one for the Contax? The Contarex version didn't have an aperture ring AFAIK.
Philipp
Sonnar2
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lens design:
Contarex mount is here: http://www.cameraquest.com/zeissbio.htm
This was Contax RF. MTF data here: http://www.imx.nl/zeiss.html
it was better than the 4/18mm (Contarex mount) Distagon, which got replaced by a 2.8/18.

Contarex mount is here: http://www.cameraquest.com/zeissbio.htm
This was Contax RF. MTF data here: http://www.imx.nl/zeiss.html
it was better than the 4/18mm (Contarex mount) Distagon, which got replaced by a 2.8/18.
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Rico
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Tiny correction: the Contarex D18 was reborn in C/Y mount with the same maximum aperture of f/4.Sonnar2 said:... Contarex mount is here: http://www.cameraquest.com/zeissbio.htm
This was Contax RF. MTF data here: http://www.imx.nl/zeiss.html
it was better than the 4/18mm (Contarex mount) Distagon, which got replaced by a 2.8/18.
Ref: CZ lens datasheets
Sonnar2
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Rico, you've got it right. But according to Zeiss, the C/Y lens was recalculated.
cheers, Frank
cheers, Frank
I like the chrome. It will go well with both MP and M8
The 15 is black and expensive
sebastel
coarse art umbrascriptor
the pages on the 4,5/21 and the 2,8/18 are back on the official zeiss web site (at least in german), but no new info yet.
just FYI.
cheers,
sebastian
just FYI.
cheers,
sebastian
AusDLK
Famous Photographer
18mm kens not available til 2007
18mm kens not available til 2007
I was told by a ZI rep at Photokina today that the 18mm lens isn't going to be available until at least March 2007.
18mm kens not available til 2007
I was told by a ZI rep at Photokina today that the 18mm lens isn't going to be available until at least March 2007.
espressogeek
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March of 07 is fine with me as I'm not going to Yosemite until May. Does anyone know what the 18mm will cost?
Thanks
Thanks
whitecat
Lone Range(find)er
I'm sure it will have a seperate finder too.
ZeissFan
Veteran
That 18mm lens looks very sexy.
Zeiss likely is waiting for mature digital technology so that it can release a product that will have a shelf life that is measured in years and not months. If/When Zeiss develops a digital camera, I expect it to be fully developed and tested and not be replaced with a Mark II version for several years, if that.
Do it right the first time, and there's no need to have to revisit it every few months.
The Zeiss Ikon (film version) is a camera that I see lasting decades (perhaps not for sale for decades) but one that can remain in service for decades.
I think it's safe to assume that Zeiss is closely watching the situation with the M8.
Niche manufacturers can't afford missteps.
Zeiss likely is waiting for mature digital technology so that it can release a product that will have a shelf life that is measured in years and not months. If/When Zeiss develops a digital camera, I expect it to be fully developed and tested and not be replaced with a Mark II version for several years, if that.
Do it right the first time, and there's no need to have to revisit it every few months.
The Zeiss Ikon (film version) is a camera that I see lasting decades (perhaps not for sale for decades) but one that can remain in service for decades.
I think it's safe to assume that Zeiss is closely watching the situation with the M8.
Niche manufacturers can't afford missteps.
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