f2eyelevel said:
I think that the main problem is that many people now confuse nudity and pornography.
Where? Not where I live, they don't.
Back in the 1970's in Europe nudity wasn't such a problem. Almost all women were topless on beaches and some photography papers could regularly publish some nice nude images from great photographers like Bill Brandt, Jean-Loup Sieff or Art Kane (of course having a nude photo on the magazine cover was a marketing trick, too).
Check out the dutch beaches in summer. You'd be hard-pressed to find a piece of cloth among all that flesh, fat and blubber. I wish some people would wear more then they do.
Nudy mags are still easily available here, even on the bottom shelf. And some UK news papers are (in)famous for their page3 (?) girl, thought these aren't always really great to look at. Must be an English thing.
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{quote]In many of the nice Fulvio Roiter's books about Italy, we can see stranger nude women bathing or having sun at the Italian beaches. I don't think Roiter got prosecuted in court for that. Was it now, he couldn't even publish his pictures.[/quote]
Heck, we even regularly find topless pics of royalty and other celebrities in the mags here. They don't like it much, and sometimes a mag gets sued, but they don't get convicted for publishing nudity.
Now that pornography is readily available everywhere on the Internet even for children, nudity offends. Topless women on beaches are less and less numerous but young girls walk downtown wearing quite not only not smart but undecent clothes, showing their belly buttons and string panties.
I rather preferred to see young women walking in the summertime cities streets wearing smart Italian shoes, well cut mini skirts and nice shirts, then meeting the same girls topless at the beach, than the upside-down manners we have to live with now.
Plus, just looking at a beautiful young woman in the street now can get you a knife blade hit from her boyfriend.
Odd place you live in. Really. Yes, there are people (girls, women) who wear revealing clothes, and some of it looks really *yugh* with the fat exposed and all. But many, many girls and women here wear very stylish, very appropriate clothing. Almost as if they're walking on the boulevards of Paris or Rome. On the beach I still see too much exposed blubber; not less. And the switch blade... there have been fights over girls for millenia, and they happen here too, but those are normally restricted to night time when people are out, drunk and excited.
Sorry, but I don't recognise the place you describe. Maybe I'm just blind.
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