newbie question on m8 import to lightroom

[raytoei@gmail.com]

hi,

a quick newbie question:

i shoot jpg + DNG in BW and I import into Lightroom.

I see JPG and DNG as one image in Lightroom and I see the BW images being converted automatically to Color.

How can I see only B&W in LR ? (Do I have to do a convert to BW during Import ?)

raytoei
a film user

 

[pepeguitarra]

The B&W jps are automatically saved at the folder where the DNG files are saved. In light room, you will only see the DNG in color. However, if you delete a DNG with LR, it will delete the B&W jpg too. I first take my B&W jpgs and move them to a place outside LR. Then start processing the DNG in color or even in B&W. I like the JPG I get straight from the M8.

 

[Godfrey]

hi,

a quick newbie question:

i shoot jpg + DNG in BW and I import into Lightroom.

I see JPG and DNG as one image in Lightroom and I see the BW images being converted automatically to Color.

How can I see only B&W in LR ? (Do I have to do a convert to BW during Import ?)

raytoei
a film user

- Go to Lightroom Preferences, General tab, and click the option to "Treat JPEG files next to raw files as separate photos". Once you do this, both your B&W JPEGs and the DNG raw files will be visible together in Lightroom when you import them.

- To bring in all your older, existing B&W JPEGs, control- or right-click on the folders that you've imported after setting the above option and use the Synchronize Folder command.

- When you set the M8 to produce B&W images, what you're doing is using the in-camera JPEG processing to render the raw data into B&W and create a JPEG file. The raw data is untouched, however, and is what the DNG file contains. Lightroom does not render the raw data to B&W because it cannot read or apply the camera's internal instructions on how to do that, so it just renders the DNG files according to its defaults for the camera. The JPEG files, however, are already rendered to B&W so Lightroom just displays them.

G

 

[pepeguitarra]

Thank you

Thank you

- Go to Lightroom Preferences, General tab, and click the option to "Treat JPEG files next to raw files as separate photos". Once you do this, both your B&W JPEGs and the DNG raw files will be visible together in Lightroom when you import them.

- To bring in all your older, existing B&W JPEGs, control- or right-click on the folders that you've imported after setting the above option and use the Synchronize Folder command.

- When you set the M8 to produce B&W images, what you're doing is using the in-camera JPEG processing to render the raw data into B&W and create a JPEG file. The raw data is untouched, however, and is what the DNG file contains. Lightroom does not render the raw data to B&W because it cannot read or apply the camera's internal instructions on how to do that, so it just renders the DNG files according to its defaults for the camera. The JPEG files, however, are already rendered to B&W so Lightroom just displays them.

G

Thank you. Live and learn!!

 

[raytoei@gmail.com]

okay. thanks much. does that mean if i do not intend to use the jpeg,
i should just use the DNG option instead of DNG+Jpeg in the M8 ?

 

[Bill Clark]

I use Canon stuff!

However, trying to help, I only use RAW capture no jpg made in camera. After removing the card from the camera and initial install, I duplicate the files on an external hard drive. Then I process the files with my computer and it's at that stage I'd recommend making your jpg files. DNG is Adobes digital negative file format.

 

[pepeguitarra]

okay. thanks much. does that mean if i do not intend to use the jpeg,
i should just use the DNG option instead of DNG+Jpeg in the M8 ?

If you do not intend to used the JPG (B&W), why are you taken them, for viewing on the camera screen? I do it because some times the camera produces better quality B&W than the ones I can process with LR and add-ons. I also use the camera in JPG (B&W) to feel like I am using an old film camera. It forces me to compose better.

 

[Godfrey]

okay. thanks much. does that mean if i do not intend to use the jpeg,
i should just use the DNG option instead of DNG+Jpeg in the M8 ?

Some cameras produce B&W JPEGs that are good enough to be finished goods. I don't know about the M8, but the M-P typ 240 does. For that reason, I capture JPEG+raw. If the JPEG is good enough for my needs, I'm done. Otherwise, I have the raw file to work with.

If you're only going to use the raw files regardless, turn off JPEG capture and save the space.

G

 

[raytoei@gmail.com]

thanks much. make much sense to me now.

raytoei