News from Kodak/Chapter 11 Emergence

[denizg7]

who cares. Best thing they can do is sell their film rights and recipe to a japanese company where film is alive and customers are more loyal

 

[Roger Hicks]

who cares. Best thing they can do is sell their film rights and recipe to a japanese company where film is alive and customers are more loyal

People who know anything about film coating care. It isn't just 'a recipe'. When Ilford moved from Essex to Cheshire they had difficulty in exactly replicating their films, using the same machinery and with the same staff. It's a LOT more complicated than you think.

Cheers,

R.

 

[joeswe]

who cares. Best thing they can do is sell their film rights and recipe to a japanese company where film is alive and customers are more loyal

Alive? Maybe. Just starting to smell a bit funny:

Fuji To Cease Motion Picture Film Manufacturing By End Of The Year?

 

[Jamie123]

Alive? Maybe. Just starting to smell a bit funny:

Fuji To Cease Motion Picture Film Manufacturing By End Of The Year?

Exactly. Whenever somebody says 'I don't care, there's still Fuji' I have to wonder if they actually read the news. Fuji has been dropping emulsions left and right. Fuji has no more of a commitment to film than Kodak has/had. Actually, maybe even less considering that Fuji is doing well in the digital photography market.

 

[ChrisPlatt]

Fuji To Cease Motion Picture Film Manufacturing By End Of The Year?

If this comes to pass can Fuji slide film (our current only option) be far behind?

Chris

 

[Trius]

When Ilford moved from Essex to Cheshire they had difficulty in exactly replicating their films, using the same machinery and with the same staff.

The terroir of film. And gives a whole new meaning to vintage photograph ...

 

[denizg7]

Exactly. Whenever somebody says 'I don't care, there's still Fuji' I have to wonder if they actually read the news. Fuji has been dropping emulsions left and right. Fuji has no more of a commitment to film than Kodak has/had. Actually, maybe even less considering that Fuji is doing well in the digital photography market.

never said there is fuji... I am talking about japan. Film is more popular there and they are loyal to film companies

 

[Jamie123]

never said there is fuji... I am talking about japan. Film is more popular there and they are loyal to film companies

What use is loyalty to film companies when the film companies are gone or don't produce film anymore? Last time I checked there weren't any other film manufacturers that make color negative film as good as Kodak's and Fuji's.

 

[Roger Hicks]

The terroir of film. And gives a whole new meaning to vintage photograph ...

Very true!

(But aaaargh anyway).

Cheers,

R.

 

[Roger Hicks]

never said there is fuji... I am talking about japan. Film is more popular there and they are loyal to film companies

Of whom were you thinking, then? Mitsubishi?

Cheers,

R.

 

[sparrow6224]

Roger H -- you really live in Aquitaine? Can we call you Le prince d'Aquitaine? V. good wine about, I bet. Anyway such a beautiful place in the world: and such amazing light.

 

[Roger Hicks]

Roger H -- you really live in Aquitaine? Can we call you Le prince d'Aquitaine? V. good wine about, I bet. Anyway such a beautiful place in the world: and such amazing light.

Dear Vince,

For a given value of Aquitaine, yes. Over the years the Aquitaine has varied enormously in size, and where I live is not currently included in it. The département is Vienne, but at the end of the village is the beginning of Deux-Sevres.

On the other hand, Thouars, 15 miles north, was the last city to fall to the French in the Hundred Years' War. I like to use the old name to point out that even nation-states such a France are surprisingly recent and may be surprisingly transient.

A lot of Acadiens came from this area, too.

Cheers,

R.

 

[Bob Michaels]

If I'm not mistaken the judge has not made a decision here -- they can't do jack without the court approving it. perhaps the forums could get together and hire someone knowledgeable -- I'm not kidding, it's quite doable and quite common and not at all useless -- to write an amicus (friend of the court) brief to file with the court about the historical significance of the film division, its role in a world with about four other companies still making film, etc etc etc. It's a MAJOR story and quite possibly one only dimly visible to the court. Any lawyers on here?

Unfortunately none of this matters at all to the bankruptcy judge or the creditors. This is a pure and simple financial decision.

Imagine YOU, not some ambiguous company, were owed money by Kodak. Imagine the bankruptcy court telling you that you got a smaller percentage of what was owed you than possible but you should be happy because photographers still had Tri-X.

 

[Gumby]

Dear Vince,

... and where I live is not currently included in it. ...

I'm going to change my location to "Los Angeles, Mexico" instead of Los Angeles, California. 😀

 

[Roger Hicks]

I'm going to change my location to "Los Angeles, Mexico" instead of Los Angeles, California. 😀

All you need is 'Alta California' to be as historically accurate as my version of the Aquitaine.

Cheers,

R.

 

[Jamie123]

I like to use the old name to point out that even nation-states such a France are surprisingly recent and may be surprisingly transient.

True. My grandmother was the only one among her 7 siblings to be born Italian right after WWI. All others were born Austrian although they always spoke Italian.

 

[Jamie123]

http://www.bjp-online.com/british-j...-active-discussions-to-sell-its-film-business

Nothing specific yet but at least it's going forward. It's good to know that there are 'traditional photographic companies' amongst the interested parties but then there are also private equity firms...

 

[Griffin]

Sounds like film is doing well. Good reason to get rid of it eh?

How twisted am I to think this is illogical?

 

[John Bragg]

All the more reason to support Ilford. They at least are fully committed to film.

 

[Jamie123]

All the more reason to support Ilford. They at least are fully committed to film.

Sure, once Ilford comes out with a nice color neg film I'll support them. 🙄