squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
Oh my God, I love it!
dazedgonebye
Veteran
So, I've heard a lot of "give me the black one," in discussions on this camera. I usually go for the all black look myself, but this one says "silver/black" to me. Just something about a folder that wants to be that way.
Anyone else?
Anyone else?
Solinar
Analog Preferred
From this image, the camera appears to have an AE mode.
Any info on the metering?
There is a metering cell just to the side of the RF window. It looks like it will be using an electronic leaf-shutter in a similar fashion to the Plaubel-Makina 67.
KoNickon
Nick Merritt
I didn't see anything clarifying whether this was switchable 120 and 220 format -- anyone know?
Pretty nifty! I am stoked that Cosina is making this -- if the lens is a joint design with Fuji it's going to be a cracker. What a great travel camera this could be. (Though affording both this and the vacation might be tough!)
Pretty nifty! I am stoked that Cosina is making this -- if the lens is a joint design with Fuji it's going to be a cracker. What a great travel camera this could be. (Though affording both this and the vacation might be tough!)
dazedgonebye
Veteran
Any speculation on that lens design from the scant information?
80mm, 4 groups, 6 elements.
80mm, 4 groups, 6 elements.
squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
This is making me start to think that, if the camera industry stopped making film tomorrow, Mr. K would start making it next Thursday.
KoNickon
Nick Merritt
Thanks, Pitxu, I didn't see that other thread. Six elements, four groups -- consistent with a Heliar design. And it is 120/220; excellent.
I'm assuming that you can't switch between 6x6 and 6x7 midroll; that's fine. But if you can, that would be really something (and unique, as far as I know).
I knew the metering couldn't be through-lens, of course -- but cameras like the Hexar AF meter just fine without being TTL. AE metering with exposure compensation is a nice plus.
I am content!
I'm assuming that you can't switch between 6x6 and 6x7 midroll; that's fine. But if you can, that would be really something (and unique, as far as I know).
I knew the metering couldn't be through-lens, of course -- but cameras like the Hexar AF meter just fine without being TTL. AE metering with exposure compensation is a nice plus.
I am content!
KoNickon
Nick Merritt
Well, I misspoke -- a Heliar design is 5 elements in 3 groups. But I suppose it could be a Heliar modification. Somehow I think the lens will be quite good, regardless of its true design.
sanmich
Veteran
would you assume the fujinon and Heliar to be the same lens?
How about filters / hood, it is quite important for outdoor photography, where this camera will shine (IMHO)
How about filters / hood, it is quite important for outdoor photography, where this camera will shine (IMHO)
KoNickon
Nick Merritt
Probably the same lens, just rebadged. If in fact it's two different lenses -- oh God. People will have to have both, like a Planar and Xenotar.
micromontenegro
Well-known
So, I've heard a lot of "give me the black one," in discussions on this camera. I usually go for the all black look myself, but this one says "silver/black" to me. Just something about a folder that wants to be that way.
Anyone else?
Absolutely. I want mine in silver-
PhotoMat
Well-known
It appears that it says "Bessa" on the top plate. That may give us further insight into the badging and distribution for the Japanese and export versions.
David Goldfarb
Well-known
V/C has been recycling a lot of Voigtländer brand names, but there is no correlation between the modern lenses and the historic designs in general. I presume the lens will be a plasmat or Planar variant and will be the same on both cameras.
KoNickon
Nick Merritt
True enough about the Voigtlander lens names, as employed by Cosina. I guess I'm encouraged by not seeing "Aspheric" on the lens anywhere -- not by any means to say that aspheric designs are to be avoided, but simply that perhaps the lens will be of a more traditional design, like those of the classic Bessa folders.
Solinar
Analog Preferred
The lens says Heliar - but it is 6 elements in 4 groups. A true Heliar has 5 elements in 3 groups.
aizan
Veteran
dear god, someone get word to mr. k: remove the "667" label on the front of the camera. absolutely hideous. if anything, they should put "voigtlander" on the front to be historically correct, and move "bessa iii" where it currently says "voigtlander".
anyhow, the new dual format feature sounds awesome!
anyhow, the new dual format feature sounds awesome!
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AJShepherd
Well-known
That's good news about it being sold outside of Japan. It'll be a nice big brother to my Bessa R3A!
I'm with Aizan on the logo placing though.
667: Across the street from the Beast!
Can't wait to see the price. Can my pocket stand it?
I'm with Aizan on the logo placing though.
667: Across the street from the Beast!
Can't wait to see the price. Can my pocket stand it?
fgianni
Trainee Amateur
That's good news about it being sold outside of Japan. It'll be a nice big brother to my Bessa R3A!
I'm with Aizan on the logo placing though.
667: Across the street from the Beast!
Can't wait to see the price. Can my pocket stand it?
As far as I care about names, they can even call it Holga II.
But I share your concerns about price and pockets.
ClaremontPhoto
Jon Claremont
dear god, someone get word to mr. k: remove the "667" label on the front of the camera. absolutely hideous...
You could buy the Fuji branded version instead.
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
How about the old "69" designations, is that label also starting some weird assotiations in your head?

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