GaryLH
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http://www.dpreview.com/articles/3638044195/nikon-coolpix-s800c-android-camera-first-look
Has wifi and gps as well. Hmmmmm
I guess Apple, Samsung, etc starting to make a dent in their business, they need to differentiate from rest of the pack. or are they in reality ?
Gary
Has wifi and gps as well. Hmmmmm
I guess Apple, Samsung, etc starting to make a dent in their business, they need to differentiate from rest of the pack. or are they in reality ?
Gary
GaryLH
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Some further thoughts about this....
Maybe I am tooo old school, but I want my camera to be a camera... I don't want it to be a "G*d box", I don't want to worry about malware sneaking onto my camera and causing mischief or corrupting the file system on the sd card...:bang:
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I like what Sony has done with the rx100 or what Canon has done with the s100, but I hope this is not the start of a trend to more android app oriented phones.
Any just some of my thoughts...
Gary
Maybe I am tooo old school, but I want my camera to be a camera... I don't want it to be a "G*d box", I don't want to worry about malware sneaking onto my camera and causing mischief or corrupting the file system on the sd card...:bang:
I like what Sony has done with the rx100 or what Canon has done with the s100, but I hope this is not the start of a trend to more android app oriented phones.
Any just some of my thoughts...
Gary
Shutterspark
The perpetual new guy.
My first thought was that it's a pretty pointless concept, since the people who would want Android on their phone would already own a smartphone, and these days many of them already have "good enough" cameras for snapshots.
Then again, I suppose that's not the point. This just takes better photos than an iPhone and lets you edit/share them straight away to your Facebook, Twitter or whatever, like you can on an iPhone. And there would be a good market for that.
Admittedly there's a lot more potential than just social media, but I doubt there would be much developer support given the non-universal nature of much of the camera hardware, and Nikon's inexperience with supporting this kind of thing.
The main problem I see is that having to rely on wifi is hardly ideal in many parts of the world.
Then again, I suppose that's not the point. This just takes better photos than an iPhone and lets you edit/share them straight away to your Facebook, Twitter or whatever, like you can on an iPhone. And there would be a good market for that.
Admittedly there's a lot more potential than just social media, but I doubt there would be much developer support given the non-universal nature of much of the camera hardware, and Nikon's inexperience with supporting this kind of thing.
The main problem I see is that having to rely on wifi is hardly ideal in many parts of the world.
btgc
Veteran
OS-based cameras are good. People will buy not only proprietary $100 filter adapters but also apps to "get out best of their cameras". That's new bright market, good news for developers.
rectangularimage
Member
I was pretty confident that this was inevitable (an Android powered camera that doesn't have a phone attached) but I'm surprised Nikon is first to do it.
This will be significant because (I'm assuming) 3rd parties will be able to produce camera apps for it, some of which will be likely be better than Nikon's control software (I never had much respect for camera maker's user interface design capabilities). Also, there will be a range of kinds of camera apps from extremely simple idiot proof ones to ones that allow more control, as well as the Instragram and Hipstamatic type apps.
The next phase in camera evolution is starting right now.
This will be significant because (I'm assuming) 3rd parties will be able to produce camera apps for it, some of which will be likely be better than Nikon's control software (I never had much respect for camera maker's user interface design capabilities). Also, there will be a range of kinds of camera apps from extremely simple idiot proof ones to ones that allow more control, as well as the Instragram and Hipstamatic type apps.
The next phase in camera evolution is starting right now.
RObert Budding
D'oh!
How long until they add a phone to it?
btgc
Veteran
How long until they add a phone to it?
When someone writes phone app to communicate with smartphone over BT ?
Sony will have something similar very soon. Not Android however.
LeicaFan
Well-known
This camera was obviously designed with social media in mind. Being able to take pictures and upload them to the web directly from the camera is a good idea, but what percentage of people are going to buy a camera specifically for this purpose?
Smart phones already have decent cameras (and they're getting better and better). With a smart phone, you can upload pictures to the web wherever you are because of the 3G/4G network. With this new Nikon camera, people are limited to areas with wifi (which is still not widely available in some areas).
People who care about picture quality will likely not be interested in this camera, anyway. This camera has a very small sensor and there doesn't appear to be any way to control the aperture, iso, shutter speed, etc...
I don't think this camera will do very well. P&S have already lost a lot of popularity. Smart phones are taking over.
Smart phones already have decent cameras (and they're getting better and better). With a smart phone, you can upload pictures to the web wherever you are because of the 3G/4G network. With this new Nikon camera, people are limited to areas with wifi (which is still not widely available in some areas).
People who care about picture quality will likely not be interested in this camera, anyway. This camera has a very small sensor and there doesn't appear to be any way to control the aperture, iso, shutter speed, etc...
I don't think this camera will do very well. P&S have already lost a lot of popularity. Smart phones are taking over.
thegman
Veteran
Not interesting to me, but I can see the benefit. With Wifi and Android apps, there is a lot of potential for backing up to FTP etc. It could end up being very flexible. Curious, but not for me.
jarski
Veteran
get ready for Instagram metamorphosed "real camera" photos filling Facebook and Flickr.
RObert Budding
D'oh!
Right now you can buy a pretty decent phone with a camera that sucks. Maybe Nikon will eventually give us a pretty decent camera with a phone that sucks.
GaryLH
Veteran
Right now you can buy a pretty decent phone with a camera that sucks. Maybe Nikon will eventually give us a pretty decent camera with a phone that sucks.
Lol
Gary
btgc
Veteran
Nikon probably is just testing market. Did you expect they would release Android DSLR flagship as their first OS-based camera? Small sensor, no aperture ring, yada-yada...just see what happens!
reagan
hey, they're only Zorkis
Don't most Android phones have the capability to create their own hotspot? So you're phone is your wifi and your camera uploads tooooo... whatever.With this new Nikon camera, people are limited to areas with wifi (which is still not widely available in some areas).
Orrr... you can slide one of these into your existing camera's SD slot and do the same, right? startin' at 40 bucks or so?
Ahhh, the gadgetry of life. Reminds me, I need to go upload some film into my Zorki.1 ... and check the batts.
reagan
hey, they're only Zorkis
Right now, the communication device that I'm married to for the next year has both a phone :bang: and a camera :bang: that sucks. :bang:Right now you can buy a pretty decent phone with a camera that sucks. Maybe Nikon will eventually give us a pretty decent camera with a phone that sucks.
My kingdom for a dial tone!
Vics
Veteran
I'm sure I'm in a minority of, maybe, one, but the only thing that attracted me to smartphones was their ability to upload pictures to the web. I don't want the phone part. I don't presently have a digital camera, because I've been waiting for this. I like the idea of the GPS, too, not because I can't find my way around, but because of the ability of the camera to remember where it was when the photo was made (EXIF). I only hope it has a decent lens.
jfretless
Established
I like the idea. My HTC EVO 4G LTE has a pretty darn good camera in it. ...it even has continuous shooting available. 8MP and a dedicated shutter button on the side of phone. ...and love it or hate it, and as much as I love film, instagram gives me the option to turn the surgically plain images from the camera into something more in tune with what I want to convey. ...in a instant no less. I have exposed rolls of film that I just don't want to send out to process, scan and photoshop. ...to get basically the same thing I get from instagram. Now, Nikon, is giving us a better camera to boot. Awesome.
...with 75,000+ plus images uploaded to Facebook every MINUTE, the 'value' of a great image is now less about art and more about content. ...about what is happening now. This is where the future is.
On the technically side, WiFi and bluetooth is good enough for now. Use bluetooth or Wifi to send a image to your phone and use the phone network to upload.
John
...with 75,000+ plus images uploaded to Facebook every MINUTE, the 'value' of a great image is now less about art and more about content. ...about what is happening now. This is where the future is.
On the technically side, WiFi and bluetooth is good enough for now. Use bluetooth or Wifi to send a image to your phone and use the phone network to upload.
John
LeicaFan
Well-known
On the technically side, WiFi and bluetooth is good enough for now. Use bluetooth or Wifi to send a image to your phone and use the phone network to upload.
That's my point. Why would somebody take a picture with a camera, wirelessly send it to their phone and then from the phone, upload it to the web? Why not save a step and take the picture on your phone and then directly upload it to the web?
As you said, the camera on your phone is pretty good. They will continue to get better. When uploading images to facebook, instagram, twitter, etc... image quality is not a top priority, anyway.
LeicaFan
Well-known
Why not save an extra device then and upload photos directly from your phone?
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
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