willie_901
Veteran
...
if you don't need a D5, don't buy one. ...
Thank you. Not only do I not need one, I don't even want one.
ray*j*gun
Veteran
Features aside, be sure to order an extended warranty with new Nikons as the company will do zero with any issues that develop outside of the warranty (like 15days on a 1000 click D610).
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Dear Keith,It would be interesting to put the D5 in a head to head comparison with the new Leica SL. Obviously the Nikon would kick it's butt but it would be interesting to know by how much in regard to AF speed, frame rate, buffer capability etc.
"Obviously"?
In image quality?
Cheers,
R.
Highway 61
Revisited
Now we may want to wait for a Df2 having the D5 sensor and image processor and none of the stupid design flaws of the Df...
semi-ambivalent
Little to say
...Nikon has never forgotten the photojournalists and pros that made them what they are.
Well, let's just say Nikon remembered them, after Canon took about a third of their users back in the day. But it's good Nikon seems to have found its legs again. Maybe changes in company philosophy took hold; competition is always good in the market.
Thanks,
s-a
x-ray
Veteran
Well, let's just say Nikon remembered them, after Canon took about a third of their users back in the day. But it's good Nikon seems to have found its legs again. Maybe changes in company philosophy took hold; competition is always good in the market.
Thanks,
s-a
Competition benefits all of us. It keeps us from getting lazy and holds prices down.
Huss
Veteran
Now we may want to wait for a Df2 having the D5 sensor and image processor and none of the stupid design flaws of the Df...
You mean claiming it's just like a traditional mf camera, but sucks at focussing mf lenses? Yeah I used one, and Nikon's own AF F6 is waaay better at focussing mf lenses.
Now we may want to wait for a Df2 having the D5 sensor and image processor and none of the stupid design flaws of the Df...
While I love the Df and its flaws, I will take an updated Df2 pronto.
rodt16s
Well-known
I have to admit it is notoriously difficult to capture my black cat moving around on the dark brown floor. Doesn't warrant the need to throw in six grand though.
Maybe consider an 18% grey cat, probably cheaper
Ronald M
Veteran
Unlike Apple who abandon the pro users Nikon has never forgotten the photojournalists and pros that made them what they are. Features like ultra high ISO aren't for the average forum member, it's for the journalist shooting action under moonlight. The D5 isnt aimed at the average forum member here. Nikons done a great job of building a wide range of cameras for every level from the beginning amateur to professionals. Canon has done an excellent job as well.
yes, every Apple I buy is more of a toy than the one before. What the hell is airdrop or the rest of the junk anyway. Apple already did everything a computer is supposed to do. If you are too lazy to master it, too bad.
Maybe it is about selling the genius services?
Samouraï
Well-known
yes, every Apple I buy is more of a toy than the one before. What the hell is airdrop or the rest of the junk anyway. Apple already did everything a computer is supposed to do. If you are too lazy to master it, too bad.
Maybe it is about selling the genius services?
I'm still reeling after having migrated away from Apple's Aperture software. Its replacement, Photos, is borderline unusable. And I don't like Lightroom.
emasterphoto
Established
yes, every Apple I buy is more of a toy than the one before. What the hell is airdrop or the rest of the junk anyway. Apple already did everything a computer is supposed to do. If you are too lazy to master it, too bad.
Maybe it is about selling the genius services?
If you're too lazy to master it, that's on you, not Apple.
I've got a '12 MacBook Air that runs OS9 era software in an emulator better and faster than it runs on the Wallstreet G3 PowerBook sitting next to it, at half of the purchase cost and being thinner than just the G3's LCD panel.
I think Apple know what they're doing just fine.
dtcls100
Well-known
You mean claiming it's just like a traditional mf camera, but sucks at focussing mf lenses? Yeah I used one, and Nikon's own AF F6 is waaay better at focussing mf lenses.
Yeah, the Nikon F6 has the best viewfinder for manual focusing of any AF camera. Plainly has one of the easiest focusing and best viewfinders of any camera period, especially after inserting one of the optional F6 focusing screens with focusing aids. The focusing is so precise and snaps into focus so decisively. One wonders why this kind of viewfinder couldn't be put into a DSLR. Probably the size of the prism (probably precludes popup flash) and cost.
anerjee
Well-known
Black cats racing in a coal mine.
I heard this somewhere else: Rat race in a Bat cave
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
Dear Keith,
"Obviously"?
In image quality?
Cheers,
R.
I wasn't knocking the SL Roger I'm just curious how the SL would stack up against the D5 on a performance basis ... not IQ. It would give an idea about how much priority Leica have placed in this area. The SL has been aimed at the pro market after all and the D5 would probably be the current yard stick in actual field performance.
marcr1230
Well-known
I'm not so sure that's true. Handheld night shooting with depth of field? High shutter speed / low light shooting. It basically allows you to shoot anyway you like in any situation. Sure, if you only like to be out on sunny days, it is useless... but to me, it is making photography available in a lot more situations.
It also usually indicates better/less noise at more commonly used high ISO
maddoc
... likes film again.
I also don`t think that the D5 will be necessary for the average snap shooter but professional photographer will benefit from cleaner high ISO files and it is good to see that Nikon is still going strong in developing such a technology.
Baby of Macon
Well-known
I'll take superb low light performance over more megapixels any day. I'm debating getting one but it would mean breaking my rule of never buying a new DSLR. But arguably, the D5 is the best qualities of both the D3S and 3X rolled into one and improved upon. That would sort me for pretty much all of my non Fuji photography. Albeit at a price.
Highway 61
Revisited
Yeah, the Nikon F6 has the best viewfinder for manual focusing of any AF camera. Plainly has one of the easiest focusing and best viewfinders of any camera period, especially after inserting one of the optional F6 focusing screens with focusing aids. The focusing is so precise and snaps into focus so decisively. One wonders why this kind of viewfinder couldn't be put into a DSLR. Probably the size of the prism (probably precludes popup flash) and cost.
The popup flash isn't the reason (the Df - D3 - D4 - D5 don't have any and nor does the new D500, which is a -good- surprise of some sort).
The only culprits are : manufacturing costs and, moreover, dumb marketing rules.
Otherwise, there is absolutely no reason why the F6 viewfinder couldn't be put into a FX Nikon DSLR.
willie_901
Veteran
It also usually indicates better/less noise at more commonly used high ISO
At this point in CMOS sensor technology, most of the noise is photon noise inherent to the light. The electronic noise (a.k.a. read noise) is rather low. So achieving a higher signal level (an increased light energy to electrical charge conversion) is what makes mega-high ISO SNR possible. Of course the raw data is filtered using digital-signal processing in-camera at mega-high ISO levels as well.
Here's an example of input sensor read noise vs ISO for several cameras.
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