One of the sad surprises of Photokina 2016 was no top end Nikon mirrorless to compete with the FujiX and Sony A7 series.
What would you like to see in a Nikon Mirrorless ?
I would like to see
1) The sensor from the Nikon 810 - or the 810's successor
2) complete flash system compatibility with Nikon DSLRs
3) state of the art EVF - better than the Leica SL
4) large high res tilting LCD panel
5) new large mouth lens mount allowing adapters from virtually all DSLRs and 2 1/4 cameras
6) adapter allowing FULL compatibility with ALL Nikon F lens variations - OK, so it would be an expensive adapter, but WELL worth it!
7) Gazillion axis stabilization built into the camera body
Best,
Stephen
What would you like to see in a Nikon Mirrorless ?
I would like to see
1) The sensor from the Nikon 810 - or the 810's successor
2) complete flash system compatibility with Nikon DSLRs
3) state of the art EVF - better than the Leica SL
4) large high res tilting LCD panel
5) new large mouth lens mount allowing adapters from virtually all DSLRs and 2 1/4 cameras
6) adapter allowing FULL compatibility with ALL Nikon F lens variations - OK, so it would be an expensive adapter, but WELL worth it!
7) Gazillion axis stabilization built into the camera body
Best,
Stephen
Archlich
Well-known
Anything with a sensor equal to or larger than APS-C (being conservative here), with a short flange distance and a NEW range of lenses.
Otherwise it'll be too easy for them to just churn out a halfhearted Nikon version of the Pentax K-01.
Otherwise it'll be too easy for them to just churn out a halfhearted Nikon version of the Pentax K-01.
Agreed... I wouldn't want to use huge G series lenses on this.
Timmyjoe
Veteran
I'd like to see them fix the Nikon 1 system.
- Nikon 1 V4 with higher ISO capabilities
- Nikon 1 series prime lenses, fix the issues with the rear group failures (aperture locking up fully closed).
- Introduce a few more bright primes (13mm f1.4, 39mm f2.0, a new 10mm f1.8) And again, get the reliability up there with Nikon's regular lens line.
I've found the Nikon 1 system to be fantastic, when it's working. Super fast autofocus, a couple/three beautiful primes, 10mm, 18.5mm, 32mm. If they could fix the reliability problems, and get better high ISO out of the sensor, it would be a really great system.
Best,
-Tim
- Nikon 1 V4 with higher ISO capabilities
- Nikon 1 series prime lenses, fix the issues with the rear group failures (aperture locking up fully closed).
- Introduce a few more bright primes (13mm f1.4, 39mm f2.0, a new 10mm f1.8) And again, get the reliability up there with Nikon's regular lens line.
I've found the Nikon 1 system to be fantastic, when it's working. Super fast autofocus, a couple/three beautiful primes, 10mm, 18.5mm, 32mm. If they could fix the reliability problems, and get better high ISO out of the sensor, it would be a really great system.
Best,
-Tim
danielsterno
making soup from mud
Agreed with your suggestions. I think the market is smart/ matured enough for Nikon to access what and why is selling with their finger print on it differentiating themselves.
I simply want a FF version of Fuji XPro 2 with high res touch tilt screen with your suggestions and NO video...
I simply want a FF version of Fuji XPro 2 with high res touch tilt screen with your suggestions and NO video...
sevo
Fokutorendaburando
I don't think we'll see a "new mirrorless system" from Nikon. They will probably offer mirrorless F (or G) mount cameras - and as such, they will fill niches in the current SLR lineup, like video or high image rates. Sixty years of F mount compatibility is one of the big features of Nikon, and they come too late to throw that over board - and while the underdog Sony needed the leverage of becoming a "adapted lens" camera maker to enter the market with a sytem with barely a native lens, this is hardly something Nikon can be after.
froyd
Veteran
Kinda liked what I saw on the other thread about a digital SP 
daveleo
what?
I'd like to see what they could do along the lines of the Fuji X-system. (Including the "rangefinder" style bodies.)
Like to see the sensor placed deep into the body to allow for smaller adapters (Fuji's are too far forward.)
With a nice F-mount adapter in the accessories lineup.
Huge wonderful EVF.
Go easy on the camera logo, and a 2" strap that does not say "Nikon" all over it.
Like to see the sensor placed deep into the body to allow for smaller adapters (Fuji's are too far forward.)
With a nice F-mount adapter in the accessories lineup.
Huge wonderful EVF.
Go easy on the camera logo, and a 2" strap that does not say "Nikon" all over it.
Larry Cloetta
Veteran
It is popular to scoff at the Nikon 1 system, but you are right. Used with the three lenses you mentioned, it is a sweet system (and the 6.7-13 zoom is high quality as well); sometimes it is better than my "better" systems. Shame they seem to have given up on it.
Other than that, Stephen seems to have designed the camera I would pre-order today, given the chance. But, given the bizarre Nikon product announcements at Photokina, I am not encouraged.
kxl
Social Documentary
In addition to Stephen's list:
- AF engine from the D500
- zero issues (e.g., smearing) with adapted WA lenses.
- AF engine from the D500
- zero issues (e.g., smearing) with adapted WA lenses.
jarski
Veteran
if Nikon makes F-mount mirrorless, they have to make the body unnecessary big.
Nikon should try find solution that permits mounting their new SLR lenses, and allows using them as if they were on SLR. but permits also new small mirrorless lenses, so new customers without large collection of Nikkor glass would be interested. some kind of smart adapter that could be disconnected when SLR glass is not used.
Nikon should try find solution that permits mounting their new SLR lenses, and allows using them as if they were on SLR. but permits also new small mirrorless lenses, so new customers without large collection of Nikkor glass would be interested. some kind of smart adapter that could be disconnected when SLR glass is not used.
narsuitus
Well-known
I have a large selection of Nikon lenses and I have been shooting Nikon since the 1960s.
However, a Nikon mirrorless is of no use to me now because I am now committed to a Fuji X mirrorless system.
However, a Nikon mirrorless is of no use to me now because I am now committed to a Fuji X mirrorless system.
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
They're too late, I traded my Nikon DSLR kit in for a Fuji kit just a week ago.
Been a Nikon shooter for almost two decades and it feels awkward not having their stuff around but my burn-out prevents me from hauling DSLR gear and I'm just too tired to shoot it.
It freed up some dire-needed cash and I get to carry a lightweight kit if I ever get back to working.
lynnb
Veteran
I'd like to see two systems:
1. FF mirrorless with full F mount compatibility and meeting Stephen's other criteria. Not crippled in features or firmware. The lower manufacturing costs (by eliminating pentaprism and reflex mirror) will help maintain profitability.
2. A compact mirrorless system that can compete with Fuji and Sony. There are two factors I think Nikon needs to consider to make this a success:
- video. This is the growing market as far as I can see. It needs to be state-of-the-art. If Nikon doesn't make this space their own, they will cede the market to Sony.
- a well-rounded DX (APS-C) lens selection, including primes. Fuji got this right. I'm quite shocked that Nikon, with all its heritage, still hasn't got a good range of DX primes.
The Nikon 1 system had much promise but was killed by over-pricing and poor lens selection, and then by making the premium bodies the same size as Sony NEX.
As Thom has mentioned, Nikon's engineers are second to none. They have been shortchanged by management.
1. FF mirrorless with full F mount compatibility and meeting Stephen's other criteria. Not crippled in features or firmware. The lower manufacturing costs (by eliminating pentaprism and reflex mirror) will help maintain profitability.
2. A compact mirrorless system that can compete with Fuji and Sony. There are two factors I think Nikon needs to consider to make this a success:
- video. This is the growing market as far as I can see. It needs to be state-of-the-art. If Nikon doesn't make this space their own, they will cede the market to Sony.
- a well-rounded DX (APS-C) lens selection, including primes. Fuji got this right. I'm quite shocked that Nikon, with all its heritage, still hasn't got a good range of DX primes.
The Nikon 1 system had much promise but was killed by over-pricing and poor lens selection, and then by making the premium bodies the same size as Sony NEX.
As Thom has mentioned, Nikon's engineers are second to none. They have been shortchanged by management.
ruby.monkey
Veteran
I've never cared about 'full-frame' digital, and Pentax and Fuji have pretty much made that moot anyway with their medium-format offerings at a price I might just be able to justify; and as far as physical user interfaces go any new mirrorless Nikon system would have to be an X-T2 or X-Pro 2 clone to be worth my attention.
If they develop their AW1 into a modern-day Nikonos, I'll be interested. Otherwise... meh.
If they develop their AW1 into a modern-day Nikonos, I'll be interested. Otherwise... meh.
Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
I think they should continue developing the current Nikon 1 system, especially as sensor technology keeps advancing. IMO they need to refine the current two lines - the J bodies for snap shooters and the V line for advanced amateurs.
The Js seem fine as is, but the Vs need a better UI with more control of camera features including fully functional front and back control wheels. Give them the same general control set as a Nikon DSLR and a built-in EVF.
The Js seem fine as is, but the Vs need a better UI with more control of camera features including fully functional front and back control wheels. Give them the same general control set as a Nikon DSLR and a built-in EVF.
willie_901
Veteran
I would like to see an OVF/EVF system with a M mount. Even a S-mount would be good... especially if Nikon partnered with Cosina to quickly bring MF lenses to market. Nikon AF lenses could follow.
When it comes to mirrorless Nikon is stuck in the mud for two reasons:
These issues are how come the Nikon 1 Series was born.
Canon's recently announced mirrorless body was just blown out of the water by SONY's new a6500 (APS-C). This can't be encouraging to Nikon's internal proponents (if there are any) for a more competitive (i.e. more sensor area) mirrorless product line.
When it comes to mirrorless Nikon is stuck in the mud for two reasons:
- The F-mount has physical limitations
- Nikon is adverse to cannibalizing existing product lines
These issues are how come the Nikon 1 Series was born.
Canon's recently announced mirrorless body was just blown out of the water by SONY's new a6500 (APS-C). This can't be encouraging to Nikon's internal proponents (if there are any) for a more competitive (i.e. more sensor area) mirrorless product line.
willie_901
Veteran
f16sunshine
Moderator
I added number (8) and (9) otherwise you listed as I would have.
Software correction in camera for legacy lenses would be nice if needed.
Fuchs
Well-known
A FF mirrorless the size of an FM2, with the same 'manual' control dials that the Fuji XT1/2 or the Nikon Df