Nikon RF prototypes

[richardHaw]

haze? is it veiling flare 😱😱😱

or a coating problem :bang:

 

[NIKON KIU]

They do! But the S-mount version is rarer and more expensive. Quite hard to find.

Estimates are under 100 for the S mount.
I wonder if at this point more than 50 exist.

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I was hoping for a Df2 but it doesn't seem to be one at the works. maybe it's a secret since it's in development.

Now, we need to find that prototype.

Thanks for the museum tour. Although some of the same prototypes were seen by NHS members before, there are some that were never seen before.

Kiu

 

[BillBingham2]

They became confused and thought we said we wanted a Nikon EL, only uglier.

I think you meant to say EM......

I'm thinking Sony's Alpha series might be the phoenix that brings what owners of older Nikkors are looking for.

There is a very robust niche that Leica has labored through variations and delivered a sustainable market. While it allows for older glass to be used their new glass allows the combo to shine.

My guess is that Nikon's marketing/management is afraid that DSLR body that is targeted at older MF Nikkors will cannibalize their DSLR/AF lens market. They seem to have missed the signs of market maturing. While the professional market will support material technology changes, the next level down segment won't, it can only get so full.

I'm may be willing to trade a bit of kludge adapting my MF Nikkors to an A7 body for a new or slightly used FF body at a reasonable price. The flexibility could prove very fun adapting different glass.

B2 (;->

 

[Fraser]

I think you meant to say EM......

I'm thinking Sony's Alpha series might be the phoenix that brings what owners of older Nikkors are looking for.

There is a very robust niche that Leica has labored through variations and delivered a sustainable market. While it allows for older glass to be used their new glass allows the combo to shine.

My guess is that Nikon's marketing/management is afraid that DSLR body that is targeted at older MF Nikkors will cannibalize their DSLR/AF lens market. They seem to have missed the signs of market maturing. While the professional market will support material technology changes, the next level down segment won't, it can only get so full.

I'm may be willing to trade a bit of kludge adapting my MF Nikkors to an A7 body for a new or slightly used FF body at a reasonable price. The flexibility could prove very fun adapting different glass.

B2 (;->

I must have over 40 nikkors and have no problem using them on Nikon bodies, maybe the sony body will be smaller but it is not going to be any easier than using the green dot focus confirmation in the nikon.

 

[BillBingham2]

I must have over 40 nikkors and have no problem using them on Nikon bodies, maybe the sony body will be smaller but it is not going to be any easier than using the green dot focus confirmation in the nikon.

Good point, but I haven't jumped in yet because of the FF price. I want the 28/2.8 AIs that I love to be a 28. Yes, I could buy a 20 that would be close in EFL, but it's not the same lens. I'm a less is more sort of old fart, three lenses, one body, for what I shoot now, that's enough.

Getting back to the original topic, I hope Nikon will continue to add and create a world class virtual museum for their RF/SLF/DSLR history. They are a great company with a wonderful history.

B2 (;->

 

[Shac]

I must have over 40 nikkors and have no problem using them on Nikon bodies, maybe the sony body will be smaller but it is not going to be any easier than using the green dot focus confirmation in the nikon.

Fraser - I have both systems and I find the green dot is not as good as MF on Sony's - but of course this is probably personal choice

 

[jonmanjiro]

My guess is that Nikon's marketing/management is afraid that DSLR body that is targeted at older MF Nikkors will cannibalize their DSLR/AF lens market.

That and overly demanding customers. If Nikon makes a DSLR that looks like it should work seamlessly with old Nikkors then customers will expect it to work seamlessly.

A friend who was part of the team that developed the D5 firmware said it was a nightmare trying to satisfy demands from customers expecting their old lenses to work like modern lenses with with no weird colour casts, aberrations, softness. In the end, they had to draw the line somewhere.

 

[BillBingham2]

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A friend who was part of the team that developed the D5 firmware said it was a nightmare trying to satisfy demands from customers expecting their old lenses to work like modern lenses with with no weird colour casts, aberrations, softness. In the end, they had to draw the line somewhere.

I still say the approach is do what you can in camera but use an out of camera application. Trying to do it inside the camera is like trying to fit 10 kilos of ramen in a saki glass.

One approach might be to make a cloud application. You control everything then (e.g. OS, Processing Power). Figure out a tier pricing for 500, 1000, etc. adjustments per month. I'd like to say 100 free every month, 500 starts at $5.00 USD, $10 for 1,000, and give a discount to NPS members.

Once you get the math down you could move it to iOS, as it's the most controlled platform of the major mobile ones. This would be a killer iPad Pro app. I'm sure Apple would help you folks port it. Sell it for $5.00 for your first 10 lenses for one year of use. $5.00 for each additional 5 lenses. Just keep rolling updates out, charge $5.00 per major release, no more or less, micro payments and trust the volume of loyal Nikon-aholics to make it happen.

Ignore Android, you will be pulling your hair out. Then if you have the demand Mac, Linux and Windows. You might look into plug-ins to different post processing software (e.g. Adobe).

Don't try to do too much, just adjust for the classic glass, no cropping, no dodging, no burning, output the same RAW format and/or JPEG, nothing more. Lots of other software out there that your customers already have to do post processing. Getting them to change will dramatically increase the .

Cloud based apps are the perfect platform as you control all aspects of it and you dial up the memory/processor as you need.

While I haven't done any firmware work, I did a LOT of development in early computers what have less power and space than cameras do today.

B2 (;->

 

[richardHaw]

still interested on a digital RF with a REAL rangefinder 😱😱😱