Nikon - RIP

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As already said its annoying but you are always going to be a guinea pig buying cameras soon after they are released. Did you not loose even more money when you switched to Sony?
I would have just stuck with the Nikon so as not to have a Sony😉
 
I think it's kind of a childish reaction to the situation, to dump all your gear because of the way one customer service individual treated you.

Also, according to Ken Rockwell, your D600 was the same camera as the Nikon D4, which costs thousands and thousands more, so you got a really good deal on your D600, no matter what you originally paid. 😛

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-Tim
 
It is frustrating; I've pretty much given up buying new digi stuff. I do shop and shop, but hardly ever get around to buying anything. But that is largely because I don't have an immediate need. If you have a job or project that requires something, then you buy it at the price you are comfortable with and move on. I bought my Epson 4900 at a good price. Apparently people pay double what I did (well more than $700 difference). The digital gear marketplace is nutty.

Moving to Sony is helping this somehow? I presume you've now lost even more than the $700 you were upset about. So, sure, it's all a matter of principle, but Sony is somehow better? Sony Corp is known for caring about its customers' feelings?

Maybe if the world threw away its Nikons in disgust it would make a difference, but I bet they found plenty of buyers with the $700 rebate, and that there are plenty more buyers for bargain priced gear from a few Nikon deserters.
 
nobbylon said:
I really don't see what the problem is. You chose to buy at the price you paid. It was just bad timing on your part.
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Even that's a bit overly generous to the OP. Look, the camera had a set price when the OP purchased it. He either needed/could justify the purchase at that time, or not. It is not the seller's responsibility to say whether an outlay of funds in exchange for a piece of equipment is a good idea or not. Nikon's lowering of the price did not in any way change the utility of the machine once purchased. The only thing that was potentially affected was resale value. But anyone who pays the slightest attention to digital cameras knows that camera bodies depreciate rapidly, and need to be viewed as consumables, like film.

Which brings us to the real question: are we buying gear for the sake of buying gear, or because we want/need the photographic capabilities offered by that gear? There is a huge difference between the former and the latter.
 
Sony may make fantastic cameras but they are notorious for very short support period of product after release. Already they won't repair a number of their FF DSLRs, I am told by some colleagues that use them. THAT is something to complain about.
 
So I went looking for the $700 rebate on the D600 and I can't find it anywhere. All the usual places are listing it at just under $2K. Oh well, I would have bought one at $1400 as a backup for the D800.
 
The value of the camera was worth the cash exchanged at the time of purchase.

The Nikon promotion was a limited time offer, no longer available. The price is now back up to where it was.

The camera still provides the same level of quality that was worth the price at the time of purchase.

The resale value as of this point in time is not affected as the special offer is no longer available.

Of course, there will be continuous depreciation from the point of sale forward. That's the nature of the electronics business.
 
tunalegs said:
A lot of people are acting like paying $700 too much is the equivalent of losing a $20 bill. I'd have to say it depends on how many weeks a "matter of weeks" is, but if I had paid several hundred more for something than it was worth, I'd be mad too.
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He didn't pay $700 too much, though - he obviously thought the camera was worth the asking price, otherwise it would have stayed on the dealer's shelf. I know it's natural to feel a little cheated if the price drops afterwards, but it still doesn't mean he's entitled to a refund.
 
I usually buy my work cameras in pairs but this time the initial 5d markiii price was too high for me to contemplate that, so wanting the higher iso usability I bought one at the full price and waited for the inevitable price drop before buying the second, sure enough I recently bought the second less than a year after the first and a wopping £1100 less than the first.
That's how the market for Canon/Nikon works. It's a shame it's not the same with Leica, if I can't afford the release price I have to buy second hand, you begin to think that towards the end of their production run they're held artificially high
 
Especially this camera seems to be an example of very bad pricing by the company. Just looked up the price development. It started in Germany at 1998 EUR and 4 months later the price dropped by 22%. Couldn't find such a dramatic loss with 2 other high priced cameras I looked up (5D Mk III dropped 8% from start to 4 month later). I can fully understand that you feel ripped off.
 
Every day I inch closer to completely replacing all my Nikon equiptment (2 D700s, 2 super-wide Nikkor zooms and a bunch of new and old primes) for Fuji X APS-C bodies and lenses.

The Nikon stuff is just too big and heavy. Nikon's quality seems to be going down hill too. I had a D300 that constantly spit oil all over the sensor at random intervals for two years. The AF issues with the D800 bother me too. Even their prime lenses just get bigger and bigger. They don't have a tilt-shift lens I can use.

Unfortunately right now tethered operation via an iPhone or iPad (my clients love this) is only supported for the major brands. Another issue is my clients expect me to use a large DSLR, but eventually the end product will win out.

I doubt I will own any Nikon equiptment a year from now. I certainly won't miss lugging all that stuff around.
 
willie_901 said:
... tethered operation via an iPhone or iPad (my clients love this) is only supported for the major brands. Another issue is my clients expect me to use a large DSLR, but eventually the end product will win out.

I doubt I will own any Nikon equiptment a year from now. I certainly won't miss lugging all that stuff around.
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I find it big and heavy too, but it's useful none-the-less. But where can I find information about tethering to an iphone? I'd LOVE that in a studio, but haven't been able to find much information on line about how to do it. Tethered to laptop using Nikon's software yes. To an iphone, no.
 
What did you expect. D600 at start was selling at nearly as high rate as d800 here in UK at least , no wonder the price would have to go down quickly. I would really stay away from Nikon because of very poor quality control and customer care that is atrocious rather then pricing of their equipment . Sony is doing lot better in this matter. Pity they gave up OVF on theirs Dslr's though .
 
Chris101 said:
I find it big and heavy too, but it's useful none-the-less. But where can I find information about tethering to an iphone? I'd LOVE that in a studio, but haven't been able to find much information on line about how to do it. Tethered to laptop using Nikon's software yes. To an iphone, no.
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Maybe look at the Triggertrap app. You have to buy a camera connector separately to connect camera and iphone but then you can do a lot of things remotely.
 
AusDLK said:
My point is that early adopters were screwed. Dropping the price by ~25% within the first six months or so was an insult. It showed me that the camera was overpriced in the first place and I was gouged when I could be.
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You made the choice to buy the D600 at full retail. Nikon didn't force you to do so or charge you more than anyone else who bought it the same day you did.

Perhaps you should be upset with yourself for paying an early-adopter tax rather than waiting for a good deal?
 
I'm sorry to hear that you are upset by this, but this is just the price we pay in a world where the pace of technology advances at an ever increasing rate.

I had preordered the D600 and got it within a day or two after it was released. It was a little over $2000 and now less than a half year later they are going for as little as $1699. Am I upset? Surprised? No, that's just the way things work and I am certainly not going to shoot myself in the foot and dump what is one of the best cameras around and a system that I am more than 10 years invested in, just because of an unfortunate price drop. Every company does this and very few will give you a refund on the price drop if you purchased the camera shortly before hand.

Everyone knows that early adapters end up paying a premium and that prices drop a short time after. Anyone seeking to avoid that should wait 6 months before purchasing.

I think this was more than predictable with the D600, which unlike the D800/D4, is intended as a mass market product by Nikon to expand their base. The D600 was intended to get shooters on to the FF bandwagon and it was going to be priced aggressively. Interestingly the price has dropped to the original rumored price of $1699.
 
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