Nikon - RIP

[AusDLK]

However, here on the Alpha side, live is great. Visit us other Alphists over at Dyxum.com. It has great resources. Second hand Minolta AF lenses work perfect on your A99, so some great deals are to be had

Thanks for the tip on this forum. I just joined.

And as for Minolta lenses, I picked up the 24-50 f/4 for the A99. While it may not be of the super-duper highest optical quality, it's the perfect daily lens for me. Compact and covers the focal lengths I need.

 

[AusDLK]

Just let me add... I have a very specific gripe with Nikon. It's not at all about the expected swift depreciation of digital cameras.

 

[rlouzan]

Travis,

This is not always the case. Several years ago I had a major problem with Leica USAs customer service, over a lens rebate that they would not honor. The dealer talked to them to no avail. I called them several times but they still wouldn't budge. They treated me like s%$#😡 .
Finally, after I threatend them with immediate legal action they came to their senses. Sometimes you do what you have to.

Regards,
Robert

If I learned anything in the decade or so I worked at a camera store. It's that you never communicate problems like this directly with the company.
Be it Nikon, Sony, Canon, whoever. You fall back on the dealer, and we in turn would turn it over to our sales rep to do the dirty work.
Most of our reps gave us a couple week grace period when it came to rebates and warranty claims. A happy customer was in their best interest.
I can't remember ever having an issue like this that went unresolved.

 

[willie_901]

I find it big and heavy too, but it's useful none-the-less. But where can I find information about tethering to an iphone? I'd LOVE that in a studio, but haven't been able to find much information on line about how to do it. Tethered to laptop using Nikon's software yes. To an iphone, no.

http://www.camranger.com/

 

[Range-rover]

Omg. I can understand being mad about sensor issues, for sure. Anger about price drops is ridiculous. My Sony nex 5n is not worth half what it was a year ago. Should I be pissed?

Early adopters always take risks to have cool stuff first. Look at the Fuji rush and hangover. The funny thing is how sony's desperate quest for market share drew such a chorus of pshaws. The nex 5 was laughed at widely at inception.

Basically the whole point of 35mm photography began with the idea of a truly portable camera. Contax began the bloat, and the Slr revolution, sans Olympus, pushed it. But these huge FF DSLRs are over the top, a99 and even the m9 included. We will soon have an FF the size of the original Leica, and it's long past time.

Your right they are large, I think the problem is they put so much in
feature wise that they won't get any smaller, and when are we going
to see a FF for under $1000 dollars most likely never their having to
much fun over charger us for features that we don't need or ever use.

Range

 

[Travis L.]

Travis,

This is not always the case. Several years ago I had a major problem with Leica USAs customer service, over a lens rebate that they would not honor. The dealer talked to them to no avail. I called them several times but they still wouldn't budge. They treated me like s%$#😡 .
Finally, after I threatend them with immediate legal action they came to their senses. Sometimes you do what you have to.

Regards,
Robert

Obviously individual results will vary, sorry you had a problem.

 

[jtm6]

Just let me add... I have a very specific gripe with Nikon. It's not at all about the expected swift depreciation of digital cameras.

I noticed this in your original post - it wasn't just the money but rather how they handled the situation. If it is within a certain period, I try for a price adjustment from the retailer. If they don't do that, I buy the new one and return the other new one. If the retailer won't do that, I'd go to VISA or whomever handled the transaction. If it is beyond the fair/contract period, I'd consider myself SOL and I'd live with it. But I do understand the offensive nature of how some companies handle their customers.

Also, AFAIK Nikon always has holiday promotions. I never buy until that info comes out.

(Please note I bought an $150 F3 to use with my Nikkor lenses because I got tired of waiting for a reasonable FF from Nikon, then the D800 waiting list fiasco, then the D800 defective AF fiasco. Recently I had a bit of buyer's remorse thinking I should have bought a D600 with the crazy holiday promotions. But my D600 research turned up the info about its own defect fiasco. I'll stick with my old tech for the time being. It tends to work.)

 

[Peter_wrote:]

really? buying luxury goods (buying a D600 as early adopter is nothing else than that) and then be obsessed because of the price?

i know this wealthy people so well. always buying stuff, they don't need, and throwing half of it away then. but in the supermarket they argue with a salesperson because of the price of the sausage.
always looking on the own benefits and always living in fear that others outsmarts them.
they themselves would never be generous to others though and always insist on "their rights".

if that happened to me, i just would think, ok, bad luck. i can at least understand somehow, if someone tries to ask for a price reduction. but getting obsessed because of not getting it? thats ridiculous.

anyway, you haven't lost money. you just don't like the thought, that other would get your luxury good for a lower price now...

and i am not on the side of big companies. especially in warranty issues e.g. but i assume the managers of such companies are of the same spirit as the thread starter.

all this greed for money nowadays which confirms under the euphemism neoconservatism.

 

[Mark C]

It wasn't a rebate.

Here is what the special promotion was:

http://www.petapixel.com/2012/12/14...et-to-ridiculously-low-prices-around-the-web/

Canon had a similar promotion on the 5D III that saved several hundred dollars. It also is no longer available.

You've got to be kidding. I should have looked more carefully into the OP and not fallen for this. I remember that promotion now, and should have had the common sense to realize there never was a $700 rebate.

 

[Addy101]

Thanks for the tip on this forum. I just joined.

And as for Minolta lenses, I picked up the 24-50 f/4 for the A99. While it may not be of the super-duper highest optical quality, it's the perfect daily lens for me. Compact and covers the focal lengths I need.

You're welcome and welcome to Dyxum 😉

That 24-40/4 is considered quite good, it is one of the original Minoltas released with the first AF cameras. If it is your focal length, the 30-70/4 and 70210/4 also are very capable lenses... But just look around on Dyxum and you'll will learn about them all!!

 

[nobbylon]

I wrote a whole post about sour grapes and Leica beta testing but thought better of posting it 🙂

 

[semilog]

Early adopters always take risks to have cool stuff first. Look at the Fuji rush and hangover.

Risks, yes. Fuji hangover? Absolutely not. The X1Pro that I bought at full retail, and the X-E1 that I bought at full retail when the X1P was stolen, were two of the best camera purchases I've ever made.

Have they depreciated? They're digital bodies, for Pete's sake! Of course they will be worthless within four or five years.

Digital cameras are only "investments" in the sense that buying film or enlarging paper or printer ink or a plane ticket to a place with good photo opportunities is an "investment."

 

[zuiko85]

This is why I only buy stuff after it is discontinued. If you are going to be an early adopter, if you just can't wait,.......well that comes with some risk to your pocketbook.

Thinking of upgrading my Olympus E-410 to an E1, they are less than $200 used now.

 

[x-ray]

Scan your letter a d post it. You ask for sympathy but you post no proof you were abuse.

 

[Pablito]

You've got to be kidding. I should have looked more carefully into the OP and not fallen for this. I remember that promotion now, and should have had the common sense to realize there never was a $700 rebate.

Right... it's not like you were going to pay $1,4000. Now that I see what it was about I find the original complaint even more bizarre...

 

[Faintandfuzzy]

Nikon offering a $700 rebate within weeks of my buying a D600 at full price followed by Nikon USA's insulting email correspondence and inaction afterward as I sought some recourse, has ended my 40 year love for Nikon and its cameras.

Gone is the D600 and shortly all of my Nikon gear (except for my 1960s Nikomat and 43-86mm zoom).

Enter the brave new world of the Sony A99. Wow.

So, good riddance Nikon -- this disrespected former customer will never buy or recommend one of your products ever again.

Wow...got up on the wrong side of the bed? I'm loving my D800.

 

[enasniearth]

Future shock

Future shock

Yes I bought the iPad 2 two weeks before the iPad 3 came out , so paid too much .
Still my friends that were Nikon nuts and went with canon ( total support and amazing lend program) are back with Nikon although Nikon professional services are not as user friendly . Why , well Nikon has finally figured it out and the cameras are top notch .
You can piss and moan about paying too much , when they all came out they were expensive . Its a new world and the best cameras are disposable when the newest model hits . Technology is always improving , and today's wonder child is tomorrow's discount loss leader .

 

[splitimageview]

If you buy an iPad that close to a new launch, Apple will refund to the new price or take a return so you can buy the new model.

 

[SolaresLarrave]

If the OP's logic were to be followed... what then with those people who bought their D600 at a lower price? Once prices revert to their original level, can dealers approach them and ask them to pay the difference to them?

Just wondering... Best of luck with Sony, Dave!

 

[pakeha]

really? buying luxury goods (buying a D600 as early adopter is nothing else than that) and then be obsessed because of the price?

i know this wealthy people so well. always buying stuff, they don't need, and throwing half of it away then. but in the supermarket they argue with a salesperson because of the price of the sausage.
always looking on the own benefits and always living in fear that others outsmarts them.
they themselves would never be generous to others though and always insist on "their rights".

if that happened to me, i just would think, ok, bad luck. i can at least understand somehow, if someone tries to ask for a price reduction. but getting obsessed because of not getting it? thats ridiculous.

anyway, you haven't lost money. you just don't like the thought, that other would get your luxury good for a lower price now...

and i am not on the side of big companies. especially in warranty issues e.g. but i assume the managers of such companies are of the same spirit as the thread starter.

all this greed for money nowadays which confirms under the euphemism neoconservatism.

haha, very succinct.😀
to the OP..harden up, you are living the system you so believe in, so what exactly is the whining about?:bang: