Nikon SP with S36 motor on the 'bay...

MikeChong

MikeChong

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I don't or should say never see it for sale anywhere, quite rare I gather...check it out. Always curious what it will go for. Not too many pics though, strange... item # 152215295654
 
I requested more pictures as well as more information about the mechanical and optical condition of the camera and drive.
We'll see what sort of response I get.
Robert
 
bobkonos said:
The lack of details and pictures "make me nervous" though I am not bidding. Seller has other big ticket items for sale.
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Indeed and an interesting history, 20 sales only with suddenly sales of big ticket photo gear. Sales of a Noctilux at $6,000 (rounded figures) to a buyer with 8 feedbacks, and 3 Zeiss Arri primes $10,000, buyer has feedback of 4, all IDs hidden of course, Zeiss Zoom $9,000 feedback of 2.
We all start somewhere but second purchase is a $9,000 lens :eek:
I would say buyer beware, will be interesting to see what the response is.
 
eBay's sales are not actually auctions (or at least serious ones), otherwise certain lots would appear "passed" or "unsold"...

On eBay one can let appear everything...

Just my own point of view.

E.L.
 
Elmar Lang said:
eBay's sales are not actually auctions (or at least serious ones), otherwise certain lots would appear "passed" or "unsold"...

E.L.
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Lots do go unsold if the seller has set a reserve that is not met, rare I grant you because as I understand it the higher a reserve the more e-bay take so few do that. But as all is hidden so cartels and shill bidding are impossible to detect, I agree they are not serious auctions and I long ago gave up on them. I have and do continue pick up small items from commercial listers who increasingly sell those only on there rather than list them on their web sites, film backs, filters hoods etc.
Just picked up a Hasselblad H16/32 film insert for an offer I made that allowed a counter offer to where I was happy and my first low offer was accepted, fine for that, big ticket, count me out too opaque on many levels.
 
For what it is worth, I got a reply with a request for an email address so the seller can send more photos.
With respect to my request for more information, all he said was, "The camera is in perfect functional condition, ready even for avid use."
Not particularly helpful.
Robert
 
I received a similar reply, to provide an email address and/or send your enquiry to another business email account for more pics. Ebay does not allow one to send email addresses using their page, which I did not know. Why doesn't this seller just post more photos...stay away, just sayin'.
 
ChrisLivsey said:
Lots do go unsold if the seller has set a reserve that is not met, rare I grant you because as I understand it the higher a reserve the more e-bay take so few do that. But as all is hidden so cartels and shill bidding are impossible to detect, I agree they are not serious auctions and I long ago gave up on them. I have and do continue pick up small items from commercial listers who increasingly sell those only on there rather than list them on their web sites, film backs, filters hoods etc.
Just picked up a Hasselblad H16/32 film insert for an offer I made that allowed a counter offer to where I was happy and my first low offer was accepted, fine for that, big ticket, count me out too opaque on many levels.
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If I ever see things with a reserve I never bother, one of the problems with eBay is when sellers look to price things that check listed items rather than actually sold ones.
 
MikeChong said:
I received a similar reply, to provide an email address and/or send your enquiry to another business email account for more pics. Ebay does not allow one to send email addresses using their page, which I did not know. Why doesn't this seller just post more photos...stay away, just sayin'.
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My thoughts exactly.
Robert
 
I noticed that none of the items for sale by this seller had been photographed the same way : that usually switches all red lights on.

So after a bit of thinking I easily found that this very SP + S36 photo had been stolen from an ended listing by "brooklyncamera", a very reputable NYC seller which every eBay user interested in classic photo gear must know. Example of how they always photograph their items : item #302051936885.

Clearly an extremely high scam risk there. If the Spanish seller is really behind this, the buyer might not receive a brick, but he might not receive the item pictured, either.

This Spanish seller, who began on eBay by selling cheap clothes and fashion accessories, might have had his eBay account hijacked since. Hence the strange answers Mike got, telling him to provide his email address to "another business email address".

Any sensible person should stay away from this. I have warned "brooklyncamera" about their former photo being online again to illustrate another party eBay sale (which is prohibited by eBay rules according to their VERO program). We'll see what happens.
 
Highway 61 said:
Checked from my end, looks like all the active sales by this seller have now been removed.
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The M6 Brunei may have tipped it, it was the ex Leica Museum camera Serial 000, the history of ownership on that must be well known, the picture was lifted from Arsenal Germany.
Let's hope no buyers lost money on all this.

As a non Nikon aside I am looking at a newer Hasselblad V body and as a warning a current ploy, and this was from two reputable dealers, is not to mention the screen. We are talking late models 501C and 503cw, which had acute matte from new. Both replied to my question on the screens fitted, both replied it was plain ground glass, that's a £250 part on its own to be added to their price, a plain GG screen is £15.
 
A recent episode of "Fake Britain" a TV series in the UK sowed some e-bay scams in particular of interest was the buying of positive feedback. Another reason to exercise extreme caution.
 
Hello,

I am a collector in a field quite different from cameras (antique arms & armour; orders & decorations).

In the past, it happened that I've posted pictures of some rare pieces from my collection, on specialized forums. One day, a friend of mine from overseas, emailed me with disappointment, something like "Enzo, why are you selling that piece of yours on eBay? You know that I was interested already!". With much surprise (since I've never considered to sell or trade that piece and, in any case NOT on eBay), I asked for more info and, actually, there was an "auction" on that site with all my detailed pictures, with many, many bids already. Immediately, I've contacted/alerted this to those responsible for security, receiving a "pre-set" auto-reply only. The piece appeared as sold, and remained online for the usual time among the sold items.

My only hope, is that the "hammer price" would have been a fake one.

A room auction, based at a real auction house, with its experts, can help any prospective buyer with details, condition reports, etc.

E.L.
 
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