Noctilux Future Value

sitemistic said:
How many have seen a photo taken with a Noctilux in a book, magazine, newspaper or gallery? I'm not sure they are used much for anything but snapshots.

:) I have :)
 
sitemistic said:
How many have seen a photo taken with a Noctilux in a book, magazine, newspaper or gallery? I'm not sure they are used much for anything but snapshots.

Now you're showing ignorance. I just can't believe what you are saying. Nonsense at its best.

Did you know that the Noctilux loses most of its quirks by f1.4 and all its quirks by f2? You've probably seen so many published Noctilux shots but you've just mistaken them for summilux or even Canon shots. Yeah, that's more like it.
 
sitemistic said:
O.K. We have one. Anybody else?


You've seen so many Noctilux published shots without even knowing it. You maybe thought it was Canon because we all know only Canon lenses are best, right?
 
sitemistic said:
Wow. A $6,000 lens that produces photos that look "just like a Canon." Leica needs to use that in an ad! ;)

Canon would Kill for marketing such a lens. Unfortunately, they can't even dream about doing it. The Canon f1.0 lens never even came close... It probably cost a few Hara-Kiris in the Canon lens Plant.

So please.
 
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If you were actually using it for low light photojournalism printed in a magazine or newspaper, which is what it was designed for, you wouldn't see a worthwhile difference between the various versions of the Noctilux and the nearly forty year old Canon 50mm f/0.95. That was created with old-fashioned types of glass, a simple design, and just single coated. Perhaps Canon should re-introduce that lens, but in an M mount.
 
Well it must be the first time I hear that the lens was designed for low light work.... Is it the sane for the summilux?
 
chikne said:
Well it must be the first time I hear that the lens was designed for low light work.... Is it the sane for the summilux?

The first time? Did you sleept until now? :) Aperture larger than 1.5 is meant anything for low light work.

Ned, maybe you need take the "tiring" (read long time pause) then they can continue rant about Noctilux and I'm waiting for price of Noctilux to drop after all that negativity. Then it will eventually be silent thereafter.
 
It is a 70's techology, it is huge, do we need it for work, no. I would get a canon 50/1.0 AF on SLR, the rate of sucessful is much high than Leica 50/1 on M3 or 0.85 M6
 
sitemistic said:
Hard to figure how I've managed to pay the bills with a camera for almost 40 years without owning a Noctilux. I don't think even DAH ever used a Noct.

As far as I'm concerned, I could be paying for the bills with a sigma 18-55mm + 70-300mm.
It's no secret that one can shoot weddings with a 18-55mm f4-5.6 Zoom lens and charge 3000$ and make the customers happy. Getting published with such a lens is no problem either and getting the money shots is a piece of cake. No need for a Noctilux nor summilux for that, really.
 
the 50/1's future value
in big part depends upon its future competitors

Will Leica or other manuf ever introduce modern,
presumably BETTER 50/1 and faster designs?

Leica owner Kaufman talked about a faster than Noct at LHSA.

Time will tell.

Stephen
 
tomasis said:
Aperture larger than 1.5 is meant anything for low light work.

I've been using my summilux recently as my only lens, loaded the camera with some fp4 and tried different things. It works well in daylight...
 
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sitemistic said:
Yeah, tomasis. But how would you focus it? Wide open the DOF would be the thickness of a single hair. :) There is a practical limit.

I could care much less about dof. I'd rather enjoy more of gathering more light through lens at fairly good shutter times. For 50mm FL, I tend to shoot at infinity or medium distances so it might not any problems. Size and weight would be more of concern than thin dof. With modern design, it might be possible to reduce size and weight if Kraufman says the truth :p

chikne, is that surprising? huh? It is aperture blades for ;) Let's say, all-round lens for you? ;) For me, Elmar could be better companion for daylight :p
 
I bought mine when I was in college (1984 for 600.00) I gusss apple at 6.00 a share would have been a better investment. I must admit I never used it. I bought an epson rd-1 and because the nocti hype took some shots and loved it. the only problem was focusing the darn thing. I purchased a m8 last december and what can I say.... I no problems.... I wish I had used it earlier. btw the R3.4 super angulon with the lecina adapter works and gives meter results unlike the m 3.4 on the m8.
 
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