palec
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patrickjames said:
If I remember right, Simon Larbalestier used Noctilux in Cambodia for the photo of boys in the rain.
palec
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I'd like to add, that I don't find reactions in this thread offensive, yet. It's always about opinions and at the end everyone is right and wrong. It's not easy to judge lens quality from internet pictures, the content draws more attention. But I really appreciate counterpoints in this discussion, as long as they are not transformed into personal fight.
JFYI: If one looks at the Noctilux in the context of money, the comparison with the rest of Leica glass must be considered, too. I'm reading the current price list and there are only small price gaps between both Tri-Elmars, 21 Elmarit, 35 Lux, Noctilux and 75 Lux. Just choose your favourite FL.
Let the "test" shots flow.
Neopan 400 in D-76
JFYI: If one looks at the Noctilux in the context of money, the comparison with the rest of Leica glass must be considered, too. I'm reading the current price list and there are only small price gaps between both Tri-Elmars, 21 Elmarit, 35 Lux, Noctilux and 75 Lux. Just choose your favourite FL.
Let the "test" shots flow.
Neopan 400 in D-76
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tomasis
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very well said, palec. now I see the illuminating effect again. Damn! Illuminating Holga would be nice to have 
I want to add one thing: if Nocti is really much more compact than Canon 0,95, then it is big plus.
I want to add one thing: if Nocti is really much more compact than Canon 0,95, then it is big plus.
bessasebastian
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palec said:
Elmarit 21 3150 EUR
Summilux 35 3095 EUR
Noctilux 4795 EUR
bessasebastian
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...what only the Noct can do. Three dimensional subject isolation at that distance and field of view. A telephoto lens may produce a softer background but a much "flatter" overall scene as well.
kevin m
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At that subject distance, I've seen pics from other superspeed lenses (faster than f1.4) that look remarkably similar.
jarski
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please check Leica Pocket Book, 7th Edition, page 141 (I think this is latest). if you are interested, Summilux 50 (II) page is on 138.kevin m said:At that subject distance, I've seen pics from other superspeed lenses (faster than f1.4) that look remarkably similar.
anybody else who have the lens, please keep photos coming, this is interesting.
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MikeL
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kevin m said:At that subject distance, I've seen pics from other superspeed lenses (faster than f1.4) that look remarkably similar.
Kevin, one thing that is different than other lenses is the crazy curvature of field. Do you not see it in that photo? Not everyone's taste, but it is different.
palec
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bessasebastian said:
I must have been sleeping, I have original Leica price list which is only few months old and prices are:
WATE Tri-Elmar with viewfinder 3500 EUR (now 4495)
Noctilux 3495 EUR (now 4795)
New prices according to www.leica-camera-berlin.com
I'm sorry for outdated information.
bessasebastian
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kevin m said:At that subject distance, I've seen pics from other superspeed lenses (faster than f1.4) that look remarkably similar.
It may take an eye trained to that sort of stuff but after owning the Canon EF 50/1.2L , 50/1.4, 50/1.8, Canon FD 50/1.2, Nikon 50/1.4 AF-D and 50/1.2 AI-S I can clearly tell, you need a Noct to get that kind of look. I´m no brand snob anyway, it´s just what I see.
kevin m
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OK. Then just post the pics "no words" style and then there will be no mistake about it. Otherwise, once someone makes an overblown claim it seems only natural to expect a response.
Now that you mention it I do.
Ororaro
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kevin m said:
No. You start your own "No word" thread.
I will continue to post UNIQUE Noctilux shots. I will also post some Noct-Nikkor shots, which have a TOTALLY different look then the Noctilux.
I know the lenses, I use the lenses, I see the differences.
foto_fool
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tomasis said:
I have not fondled the Noctilux, but it takes a 60mm filter while the Canon takes a 72mm (and partially blocks both VF windows and the brightness window). They both weigh A LOT but the Noctilux is lighter (630g vs 985g according to Luminous Landscape). I believe the Canon is shorter than the Noctilux.
- John
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monochromejrnl
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love the look of the photos in this thread.. could do without the banter...
here is an image taken by my wife of me using the 50/1.2 AI on my D200... notice the barrel distortion... is this common on all fast 50s?
here is an image taken by my wife of me using the 50/1.2 AI on my D200... notice the barrel distortion... is this common on all fast 50s?
Ororaro
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Mono,
Nice image.
But how can you see barrel distortion?
Nice image.
But how can you see barrel distortion?
kevin m
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Please do. I like many of the shots here. To my eye, though, only two of yours, in posts #31 and #45, have a look I would call 'unique' that could be attributed to the lens.
If that's just too much for you or the other Noctilux owners to hear, then you're being entirely too sensitive. Again, it's a public forum, not a private club, so you have to expect opinions that differ from your own. Replying to those opinions without using epithets, condescension and ad-hominem attacks would be nice, too.
back alley
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ok, let's stop the back & forth bickering here and now.
open discussion is all well and fine but there are quite a few people who see this as more of a power trip than a learning forum.
how do i know this? they are emailing me, complaining.
ned, if you want to post nocti pics then great, but don't expect everyone to like or agree with your commentary and kevin, the dead horse animation pretty much says it all.
next stop is closing this thread.
joe
open discussion is all well and fine but there are quite a few people who see this as more of a power trip than a learning forum.
how do i know this? they are emailing me, complaining.
ned, if you want to post nocti pics then great, but don't expect everyone to like or agree with your commentary and kevin, the dead horse animation pretty much says it all.
next stop is closing this thread.
joe
Ororaro
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Ah yes, the secret complainers. Forgot about them...
Honestly, if someone, anyone, thinks I am showing off and in a powertrip, please let me know ASAP. I thought people in here we're about photography and images. That's why I'm here for.
If so is the case, if my posts are interpreted as showing off I'll delete all my posts and pics one by one and deleting my account.
Honestly, if someone, anyone, thinks I am showing off and in a powertrip, please let me know ASAP. I thought people in here we're about photography and images. That's why I'm here for.
If so is the case, if my posts are interpreted as showing off I'll delete all my posts and pics one by one and deleting my account.
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back alley
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ned, is it so hard to try to get along with others?
joe
joe
lns
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Ned, these images are great, and so far only one person has criticized. Really, he just said that he can't see what makes the images special. But others do see it. Pease don't stop posting.
I personally enjoy seeing superior images. That's sort of the point.
I personally enjoy seeing superior images. That's sort of the point.