bwcolor
Veteran
I just ordered this lens this morning with an 'M' adapter, but I'm wondering if I made a mistake. This evening I get home and read that the lens has been discontinued.
Anyone have the skinny on what is up with a replacement lens?
Anyone have the skinny on what is up with a replacement lens?
Beemermark
Veteran
Why? What is the difference between the lens with an M adapter and without needing one. Based on previous releases there isn't a cost savings. So what benefit is there to a M mount only lens?
ZeissFan
Veteran
Obviously, it was a mistake to buy it. Because once production was canceled, the lens no longer works.
Beemermark's comment is correct.
Beemermark's comment is correct.
mawz
Established
Where the upgrade is a loss of close focus ability, no included viewfinder but you get (mostly useless) RF coupling?
bwcolor
Veteran
My question is really one of ignorance of the whole system. I have never and still don't have an 'M' mount system. My Ikon ZM is coming on Thursday and the Nokton has yet to ship.
My primary concern is the adapter. I don't know how much more time and effort is involved in mounting a lens with an adapter vs a straight 'M' mount.
Secondly, I have heard complaints that the lens was one of their first and that it was a bit large compared to other lenses of this speed/focal length. Perhaps a redesign would result in a slightly smaller version. I can't imagine that they would make it optically less attractive.
My primary concern is the adapter. I don't know how much more time and effort is involved in mounting a lens with an adapter vs a straight 'M' mount.
Secondly, I have heard complaints that the lens was one of their first and that it was a bit large compared to other lenses of this speed/focal length. Perhaps a redesign would result in a slightly smaller version. I can't imagine that they would make it optically less attractive.
hans voralberg
Veteran
How much effort could there be screwing a piece of metal in? Dont worry mate, takes 2 seconds at most, and just leave it there
squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
It's totally inconsequential--it takes seconds to install and results in 100% compatibility. Enjoy it!
bwcolor
Veteran
It is clear to me that word of a new lens has not leaked out, so I'm guessing that it won't be released in the very near future, so I'll stay with my present order. At very least, I have a 50mm to use right now.
Thanks
Gary
Thanks
Gary
35mmdelux
Veni, vidi, vici
Some say the 50/1.5 was replaced with the Super Nokton f/1.1.
Tom A
RFF Sponsor
The Nokton 50f1.5 was one of the first "cutting edge" lenses that Mr Kobayashi released 10 years ago (the 15f4.5 being another one). The Nokton is also the first 35 format lens with two aspherical surfaces on the same element! It was and still is one of the best 50 mm you can find - and for the price - one of the great bargains of all time for Rf users.
The policy of going to M-mount seems to be that the market for straight screw-mount lenses is more or less filled. There are a lot of "shooters" using old LTM bodies - but I suspect that most of them now have their stock of LTM lenses, be it vintage Leica or current VC lenses.
The M-mount reduces the problem (not a big problem, mind you) of users having to source M-adapters and as these are of varying quality, particularly 3rd party made one - the M-mount offers consistency in the mount and back-focus.
Mr Kobayashi and his design staff also looks ahead. Making the same thing for 10 years is a bit boring and some improvements can be made over time.
One of the limitations of the LTM mount is the size of the rear "pupil" or element. It is limited in how big a diameter you can make it. With the M-mount you can increase it with a couple of mm - which in optical design is a big step. Case in point, the 35f1.2 Nokton - when I asked if it could be made as a screw-mount - I was told that the thread would have to be cut in the glass of the rear element and nobody thought that was a good idea!!!!
The policy of going to M-mount seems to be that the market for straight screw-mount lenses is more or less filled. There are a lot of "shooters" using old LTM bodies - but I suspect that most of them now have their stock of LTM lenses, be it vintage Leica or current VC lenses.
The M-mount reduces the problem (not a big problem, mind you) of users having to source M-adapters and as these are of varying quality, particularly 3rd party made one - the M-mount offers consistency in the mount and back-focus.
Mr Kobayashi and his design staff also looks ahead. Making the same thing for 10 years is a bit boring and some improvements can be made over time.
One of the limitations of the LTM mount is the size of the rear "pupil" or element. It is limited in how big a diameter you can make it. With the M-mount you can increase it with a couple of mm - which in optical design is a big step. Case in point, the 35f1.2 Nokton - when I asked if it could be made as a screw-mount - I was told that the thread would have to be cut in the glass of the rear element and nobody thought that was a good idea!!!!
raid
Dad Photographer
Thank you, Tom. So I may one day pick up a 50/1.5 Nokton after all. If it is that good, then I better get the lens.