Roger Hicks
Veteran
Dear David,. . . And one-off prototypes escaped from the factory...
Then there were the "Mortimer Street Specials", made up from parts and dummies at the Leitz shop in London during WW2.
Cheers,
R.
JohnTF
Veteran
Roger, David, Tom, and the rest--
Thanks -- you guys have contributed to an interesting thread growing from the seed of a simple question.
I knew my Standards, had been adjusted to accept LTM lenses-- but you have filled some gaps in my vast, or half vast, canyon of missing details--
Thanks.
I would add that about 20 years ago, Pavel, a very interesting Brno Czech camera shop owner-- started me down the path to enjoying a Leica Standard, -- he almost insisted I "adopt" a very nice example-- he also had a hand made "Czech Leica" made entirely from scratch by hand by someone who just could not afford to buy or could not obtain, a real one-- so necessity created many solutions, not just on "Mortimer Street"-- probably still in Pavel's collection-- a most interesting guy -- speaks little English, but it is interesting that over a beer or two you can have a conversation in "Leica"
He has two shops in Brno, the smaller one is the collector's shop-- he was kind enough to open it for me on a number of occasions and the last time for Igor as well as we took the bus down from Prague for the day--
Reminds me I must come back perhaps after my new knee is up and running?
Roger, will you need a new Passport to go home for a visit?
Regards, everyone--
john
Thanks -- you guys have contributed to an interesting thread growing from the seed of a simple question.
I knew my Standards, had been adjusted to accept LTM lenses-- but you have filled some gaps in my vast, or half vast, canyon of missing details--
Thanks.
I would add that about 20 years ago, Pavel, a very interesting Brno Czech camera shop owner-- started me down the path to enjoying a Leica Standard, -- he almost insisted I "adopt" a very nice example-- he also had a hand made "Czech Leica" made entirely from scratch by hand by someone who just could not afford to buy or could not obtain, a real one-- so necessity created many solutions, not just on "Mortimer Street"-- probably still in Pavel's collection-- a most interesting guy -- speaks little English, but it is interesting that over a beer or two you can have a conversation in "Leica"
He has two shops in Brno, the smaller one is the collector's shop-- he was kind enough to open it for me on a number of occasions and the last time for Igor as well as we took the bus down from Prague for the day--
Reminds me I must come back perhaps after my new knee is up and running?
Roger, will you need a new Passport to go home for a visit?
Regards, everyone--
john
Dwig
Well-known
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It is actually the body that is being adjusted, not the lens.
Is this right?
Thanks guys.
Not originally, if the body was adjusted for a new lens then the original lens would no longer work.
As I understand it, when you purchased a new additional lens for a non-standard Leica your dealer sent both your the body and existing lens to Leitz (or an appropriated service center) where the new lens would be adjusted to work with the existing body. At some point, certainly at least by the time rangefinder coupled lenses were introduced for the Model II ,this mating of non-standard lenses became impractical. At that point it was a matter of buying a new standard lens and having Leitz standardize your old body and existing lens or lenses.
Dralowid
Michael
We are talking about a very short period. Non standardised production falls between 1930 and 1931.The first standardised Leica I appears in 1931, the II a year later.
David Hughes
David Hughes
Hi,
If you really want to get to know the Leica range then there are two books you need. I was going to photograph them for you but it's easier to search on ebay and give you this link:-
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEICA-POC...524265?hash=item3ac25613e9:g:qrQAAOSw2GlXH3Sq
I know nothing about the seller or the condition of the books but it came up and shows them both.
The pocket book covers the bodies and lenses and the other book almost everything else Leitz and later Leica made but it depends on the year of issue. Being ebay they come up a lot and at a variety of prices. These, for the UK, seem dirt cheap with postage included and I expect someone will grab them after I've posted this.
Regards, David
If you really want to get to know the Leica range then there are two books you need. I was going to photograph them for you but it's easier to search on ebay and give you this link:-
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEICA-POC...524265?hash=item3ac25613e9:g:qrQAAOSw2GlXH3Sq
I know nothing about the seller or the condition of the books but it came up and shows them both.
The pocket book covers the bodies and lenses and the other book almost everything else Leitz and later Leica made but it depends on the year of issue. Being ebay they come up a lot and at a variety of prices. These, for the UK, seem dirt cheap with postage included and I expect someone will grab them after I've posted this.
Regards, David
davidnewtonguitars
Family Snaps
Really?!
All this geekiness about 1 year of production?
Funny how I've seen 2 lenses in the last couple of days that were non-standard. I'm glad such a small thing can be so interesting.
All this geekiness about 1 year of production?
Funny how I've seen 2 lenses in the last couple of days that were non-standard. I'm glad such a small thing can be so interesting.
We are talking about a very short period. Non standardised production falls between 1930 and 1931.The first standardised Leica I appears in 1931, the II a year later.
Dralowid
Michael
Yes, one sometimes sees 135mm Elmars without rangefinder coupling that may well be from this period
David Hughes
David Hughes
Really?!
All this geekiness about 1 year of production?
Funny how I've seen 2 lenses in the last couple of days that were non-standard. I'm glad such a small thing can be so interesting.
Yes, well, um, we are trying to help because anyone with an old Leica and asking questions is standing precariously at the top of a very steep slope and may topple into Leica collecting (a bottomless pit). So people have to be forewarned, otherwise they end up paying a fortune for some very dodgy old cameras...
Regards, David
Dralowid
Michael
At least these days price acts as a barrier at the top of said slippery slope...gone are the days when you could take your girlfriend out to dinner, pick up a motorised 250 Reporter with Thambar and still have change from half a crown...
davidnewtonguitars
Family Snaps
David, when I came here with my newly acquired FSU's, you warned me I was standing on a slippery slope.
Now that I have acquired a fixed-up Standard, surely all my dreams have been realized and there are no more machines.
I am thinking about some 35mm glass and a finder that can be swapped among the Zorkis and the Standard though.
Now that I have acquired a fixed-up Standard, surely all my dreams have been realized and there are no more machines.
I am thinking about some 35mm glass and a finder that can be swapped among the Zorkis and the Standard though.
David Hughes
David Hughes
At least these days price acts as a barrier at the top of said slippery slope...gone are the days when you could take your girlfriend out to dinner, pick up a motorised 250 Reporter with Thambar and still have change from half a crown...
Hi,
That will happen again when we leave the EU, they say...
Regards, David
PS Even the half crown will be back, perhaps.
David Hughes
David Hughes
David, when I came here with my newly acquired FSU's, you warned me I was standing on a slippery slope.
Now that I have acquired a fixed-up Standard, surely all my dreams have been realized and there are no more machines.
I am thinking about some 35mm glass and a finder that can be swapped among the Zorkis and the Standard though.
Oh dear! Oh dear! ROFL...
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Dear David,Hi,
That will happen again when we leave the EU, they say...
Regards, David
PS Even the half crown will be back, perhaps.
Yes, but that will be seven and a half groats, and who in the UK in future is going to have that sort of wealth?
Cheers,
R.
Dralowid
Michael
A florin is damn good for opening an M6 battery compartment
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Bloody decimalization! That's when the rot started: 1849. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_shilling_coinA florin is damn good for opening an M6 battery compartment
(I assume you're not using a gold florin, 1215-1533.)
Just my two bob's worth.
Cheers,
R.
davidnewtonguitars
Family Snaps
I predict in the near future the UK will be converting over to gold coinage, oh ye of little faith.

David Hughes
David Hughes
Hi,
Some of us can remember when other countries had florins and wondering why I discovered that it was an attempt to have a common European currency; real gold and real silver not plated iron...
Regards, David
Some of us can remember when other countries had florins and wondering why I discovered that it was an attempt to have a common European currency; real gold and real silver not plated iron...
Regards, David
Dralowid
Michael
I have a box of foreign currency under my desk, much of it is defunct I fear. Plenty of gettone and a whole wad of Lire...who knows...
David Hughes
David Hughes
Hi,
Same here only my ones are kept out ready for use opening battery compartments. Even got a RM and a Charles the first penny but that's just for show in the tray of useful coins. I'd love to know what standard the Japanese decided upon for those slots in the cameras.
Older Pentax P&S's had a plastic tool on the lanyard with a coin style blade that's very useful on black cameras where you don't want the slot damaged. OTOH, the battery compartment and slot are a dead give away when checking old cameras in markets etc.
Regards, David
Same here only my ones are kept out ready for use opening battery compartments. Even got a RM and a Charles the first penny but that's just for show in the tray of useful coins. I'd love to know what standard the Japanese decided upon for those slots in the cameras.
Older Pentax P&S's had a plastic tool on the lanyard with a coin style blade that's very useful on black cameras where you don't want the slot damaged. OTOH, the battery compartment and slot are a dead give away when checking old cameras in markets etc.
Regards, David
JohnTF
Veteran
Are folks still selling? a tool for opening up battery compartments, said to have the face of Lincoln on one side?
Bit of like the "Solar powered clothes driers", you know, with the pins and all.
Regards, John
Bit of like the "Solar powered clothes driers", you know, with the pins and all.
Regards, John
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