Not overly thrilled w/X-Pro 1 in hand...

I've tried taking the xp1 with me more on walks etc. It just doesn't work trying to fit it into a pocket - even in a fairly large jacket pocket. That said, it's so nice around your neck :)

But if I really need compactness (pocket carries), then it's the x100 for me...and it's always in the side storage compartment of my car or under the seat ready to go.
 
For me, what kills the XP1 is the size of the lenses. The pancake on the X100 is great, but the 35/1.4 on the XP1 seems massive in comparison. And the 60/2.4? Forget about it. I might as well carry my D700 at that point. IMO, it's not just weight, but it's the bulk that turns me off. My M6 is probably (I haven't held the XP1) heavier than the XP1, and the body might be roughly the same size, but the lenses are far more compact-looking (again, I haven't held the XP1, so I could be wrong; I expect to be pilloried all the same).
 
boomguy57 said:
For me, what kills the XP1 is the size of the lenses.
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The 35/1.4 is essentially identical in size to the Pana/Leica 25/1.4 Summilux for µ4/3. The 18 is tiny.

And with the 35 it's a lot lighter than an M6 with comparable lens (I have both). The X-Pro1 and the OM-D weigh the same with comparable lenses. However, there's no equivalent lens to the Panasonic 20/1.7 available. That lens is probably the best reason to get into the µ4/3 system, IMO.

I spent yesterday shooting the M6 and the X-Pro side by side. In operation there's really not a lot of difference between them. Over the course of a day the low weight of the X-Pro is wonderful.
 
If the M6 I'd the same size as the M9, then I'd say the X-Pro1 is a better choice as its lighter and a bit smaller too. Yes, Leica lenses are smaller than the X-Pro1's but remember, they are autofocus lenses rather than the Manual ones for the Leica, and yes, the X100's lens is smaller but again, it's a fixed lens too do it will be smaller. The X-Pro1 is a good compromise over the more compact cameras with its built in viewfinder and yes it won't fit in a pocket but there a few cameras that will give you the image quality and handling that this camera does. Oh, try putting an M6/9 in your pocket… not easy! Might I suggest that a way round the problem is to buy the case for the X-Pro1 and that would allow it to be carried over the shoulder without the need for a bag. It's a nice case too.

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boomguy57 said:
For me, what kills the XP1 is the size of the lenses. The pancake on the X100 is great, but the 35/1.4 on the XP1 seems massive in comparison.
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It is massive in comparison... but you get used to it. It's not much bigger than any other 50mm 1.4 equivilent lens out there (for APS-C or larger cameras). It does have an SLR feel to it though.
 
jsrockit said:
It is massive in comparison... but you get used to it. It's not much bigger than any other 50mm 1.4 equivilent lens out there (for APS-C or larger cameras). It does have an SLR feel to it though.
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The idea of carrying around my M6-sized body with my Nikon 50/1.4-sized lens on the front is not only funny, but awkward (in my head).
 
boomguy57 said:
The idea of carrying around my M6-sized body with my Nikon 50/1.4-sized lens on the front is not only funny, but awkward (in my head).
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That said, it isn't much different than a M6 with a Voigtlander 50mm 1.5 lens. I'm with you though. I can't wait for the 28mm (42mm) pancake lens from Fuji. The 18mm is small enough.
 
I used the x100 since it came out last year and found it to be the perfect travel camera (small, lightweight, great image quality). As soon as the XP1 was released I picked one up and while it is larger, it is a phenomenal camera. I love the image quality that it produces and after only a few firmware upgrades, it is noticeably improved. However, recently I picked up an M9 and find it and the XP1 to be a bit redundant so I'm looking to sell the XP1. As much as I love the image quality, I can't justify having both cameras. That said, I've become spoiled by ISO performance as the XP1 is absolutely ridiculous when compared to my M, x100, or 5D2.

For those complaining about how heavy/light it is, I don't think that's a bad thing. Makes it easy to carry around all day! Coming from Canon and using a 5D2, anything that's smaller/lighter is a joy to use/carry.

If anyone's interested in my XP1, let me know.
 
Size wise I agree the X-Pro 1 is larger than I expected but it is very light and well balanced with the 35mm attached.

That said compared to my previous camera (Olympus EP2 with a pancake lens) the X-Pro 1 isn't as readily convenient for carrying.

My EP2 used to simply get put in my bag each day with the 17mm attached and another pancake lens in the bag taking up little space but the X-Pro 1 if I want to carry it with me (and I do because thats why I bought it!) takes up a lot more room so I can see times where I would have to leave it at home.

That said the IQ is outstanding although I do think sometimes that having £2000 worth of camera equipment tied up in a Compact System might have been better invested in a DSLR, especially as some, certainly with a prime lens attached wouldn't take up all that much more room (D7000 & 35mm)
 
chrism_scotland said:
That said the IQ is outstanding although I do think sometimes that having £2000 worth of camera equipment tied up in a Compact System might have been better invested in a DSLR, especially as some, certainly with a prime lens attached wouldn't take up all that much more room (D7000 & 35mm)
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I always thought of the X-Pro1 as an alternative to a DSLR. If you are into DSLRs, they are always the better value... but ergonomically, a lot of us RF users (former / current) do not like DSLRs much.
 
jsrockit said:
I always thought of the X-Pro1 as an alternative to a DSLR. If you are into DSLRs, they are always the better value... but ergonomically, a lot of us RF user (former / current) do not like DSLRs much.
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I can't blame you, I certainly would be wary of DSLR handling if I was used to RF cameras!!
I suspect part of my issue is the other way around is being used to large DSLR's (Sony A700, Pentax K20D) and then trying to get use to smaller bodies, I've found smaller DSLR's a struggle to be comfortable as well though as I seem to have hands too large for a lot of the grips!!!

For me I think I'm going to pass my X-Pro 1 on for now, with the 35mm its easily the best camera I've ever owned but the 18mm just hasn't done anything for me and I really need wider glass. The 14mm looks very interesting but I really need wider glass just now rather than later in the year, easily best IQ and I would certainly have another when there are more lenses but for me I think I might go back to a full DSLR again, especially as I've just enrolled on a photography degree which will need more kit (lenses) than the X-Pro can supply at present.
 
Pocket Camera

Pocket Camera

Don't know about you guys, but as a street photographer the worst thing you can do is put your camera in your pocket... you will miss the shot every time.

Also, I can't believe anyone complains about the X-Pro being too heavy. Heavy vs. what, your iPhone?
 
Pocketable is not about having it in your pocket when you are actually engaged in photographing.
 
brandonskinner said:
Don't know about you guys, but as a street photographer the worst thing you can do is put your camera in your pocket... you will miss the shot every time.

Also, I can't believe anyone complains about the X-Pro being too heavy. Heavy vs. what, your iPhone?
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You're right about that. I originally bought the x100 because it was the largest sensor that would fit in my pocket.

But when I'm out with it, even if it starts in the pocket, i find it around my neck most of the time. With the xp1, since it won't fit in my pocket, it's always around by neck :)

Tom
 
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