bgb
Well-known
Thanks John I love the last shot.
As i have an OM 2 and a few lenses this so camera [with an adapter] is very tempting ... i think it's time to do the digital thing.
Thanks Keith this is an interesting looking camera and a hell of a lot more practical than the x100.
As i have an OM 2 and a few lenses this so camera [with an adapter] is very tempting ... i think it's time to do the digital thing.
Thanks Keith this is an interesting looking camera and a hell of a lot more practical than the x100.
Johnmcd
Well-known
Thanks John I love the last shot.
As i have an OM 2 and a few lenses this so camera [with an adapter] is very tempting ... i think it's time to do the digital thing.
Thanks Keith this is an interesting looking camera and a hell of a lot more practical than the x100.
No worries mate. I love my OM2 as well. I'm slowly picking up more OM lenses so I can use on either camera. But I will have to bite the bullet on a new lens at some stage for the wide end.
I think it would really compliment your existing set up especially with the lenses ready to go. My adaptor is a cheap Chinese one but it fits well and after all it's just an air gap.
bgb
Well-known
This is the First time i have got seriously excited about a digital camera, the OM glass is so beautiful I don't want to part with it. I have 28mm, 35mm and 50mm so that should do for a while. $1525 NZD body only at one store here, so not too bad.
daveleo
what?
I have never gotten on with zooms; they make me a lazy photographer. I move less, since I can just zoom. Primes suit me far better and allow me to flourish creatively.
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I am glad to read this and the other zoom comments, because that's pretty much my reaction as well.
Zoom lens quality is very very good these days, but the zoom feature, for me, is one feature too much. I have a few zooms, but mostly I use the primes. Maybe the same reason I use hand saws more than power saws, maybe.
Godfrey
somewhat colored
The Panny Leica 25mm f1.4 I got from Sug arrived today and now I actually feel like using the E-M5. ...
I feel the same way about the Summilux-D 25mm f/1.4 ASPH on the E-1. If I could only have one lens for the E-1, that's the one I want. I sold off all the zooms I had except for one (the Olympus 11-22) and I haven't used that in so long it's going on the block soon too.
I've never been terribly comfortable using zoom lenses, and I particular dislike the slow "kit" zoom lenses. They're a waste of money.
Johnmcd
Well-known
Ditto on the zooms. Maybe the fact is that I grew up when zooms where never considered the quality of a prime. Not sure if that's still a valid point. I like the simplicity of one view and just work with that.
I did buy the 12-50 kit though, solely to extend my shooting into poor weather situations and that being the case, happy to live with the 'slow' F stop.
I did buy the 12-50 kit though, solely to extend my shooting into poor weather situations and that being the case, happy to live with the 'slow' F stop.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
Pictures please mate
Have you tried it with OM lenses?
How does it feel compared to an OM-1?
Cheers
Ok here they are! I probably should have sat it next an OM film body for a size comparison because it's significantly smaller and makes this lens look a lot bigger than it actually is. Somewhere in a previous thread though someone did this and it shouldn't be too hard to find. It is little but not to it's detriment IMO.
I think it's a stunning looking little camera and makes it's opposition, MFT or otherwise, look pretty ordinary. And it delivers performane wise!



Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
I meant to add that interest in this camera seems to be really picking up pace around here at the moment. I bought mine in a rush of consumerism and felt remorseful afterwards and was worried that I may have been a little impulsive! (sounds familiar!) 
Now .... the longer I own it the more I admire it, genuinely like it and have absolutely no regrets!
Now .... the longer I own it the more I admire it, genuinely like it and have absolutely no regrets!
bgb
Well-known
Impulsive ? not you mate must be thinking of someone else.
Thanks for the images I'll go check out every thread i can find.
There is a shot somewhere with a grip attachment thingy that makes the camers a little larger and maybe easier to hold on to.
VERY pretty camera
Thanks for the images I'll go check out every thread i can find.
There is a shot somewhere with a grip attachment thingy that makes the camers a little larger and maybe easier to hold on to.
VERY pretty camera
Trius
Waiting on Maitani
Zooms are like being yanked forward and backward on train rails. Yeah, you can set it at a focal length of your choosing, but then that's an over-sized piece of glass masquerading as a prime. If you choose to use the zoom capability, you waste time and break your attention to composition and body position. It is the proximity of your body-self to the subject that determines engagement.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
Zooms are like being yanked forward and backward on train rails. Yeah, you can set it at a focal length of your choosing, but then that's an over-sized piece of glass masquerading as a prime. If you choose to use the zoom capability, you waste time and break your attention to composition and body position. It is the proximity of your body-self to the subject that determines engagement.
That was very philosophical Earl ... and true!
I use one occasionally by necessity when working at QUT but I don't enjoy it ... and for a relatively expensive lens it has wicked pin cushion distortion at the long end!
zvos1
Well-known
I feel the same way about the Summilux-D 25mm f/1.4 ASPH on the E-1. If I could only have one lens for the E-1, that's the one I want. I sold off all the zooms I had except for one (the Olympus 11-22) and I haven't used that in so long it's going on the block soon too.
I've never been terribly comfortable using zoom lenses, and I particular dislike the slow "kit" zoom lenses. They're a waste of money.
Kit zoom lenses are probably best bang for the buck lenses out there. New Leica cron for $7,000 is a waste of money, IMHO.
bwidjaja
Warung Photo
Keith, thanks for posting the OM-D with Panny 25mm. Now I can see how small it is compared to my GH1.
Also, I am glad you mention about the zoom thing. As much as I like the images from Oly 9-18, something about the zoom drives me crazy sometime. I think I agree with what Trius said about breaking the attention.
Also, I am glad you mention about the zoom thing. As much as I like the images from Oly 9-18, something about the zoom drives me crazy sometime. I think I agree with what Trius said about breaking the attention.
gavinlg
Veteran
Keith I'm at work mate where's the NSFW label for those pics!
jarski
Veteran
Zooms are like being yanked forward and backward on train rails. Yeah, you can set it at a focal length of your choosing, but then that's an over-sized piece of glass masquerading as a prime. If you choose to use the zoom capability, you waste time and break your attention to composition and body position. It is the proximity of your body-self to the subject that determines engagement.
to balance this conversation, an opinion from zoom fan (well, using both types). been fine reading other opinions, but I think this is a bit over rationalizing. I havent noticed wasting any time or my attention breaking, when using zooms. or how prime would automatically improve engagement with subject. lens is a lens is a lens. use what its capable of, and adapt to its restrictions. saying prime is better than zoom is like saying hammer is better than wrench.
Avotius
Some guy
That 25 looks so good on that camera, a fine match indeed. I have my 20 f1.7 living on my EP1 ever since I got it. The zoom that came with the camera now lives in the back of my dry box somewhere. The primes are so much better for my carry camera, so much more natural to use. For me zooms only work in the longer focal lengths, the yet to be announced telephoto zoom f2.8 lens that has been rumored for so long would be where zoom would make sense.
One thing though, I am sorely tempted by that Panasonic 7-14, have you given any thought to that lens? On the OMD I bet it would be dynamite.
One thing though, I am sorely tempted by that Panasonic 7-14, have you given any thought to that lens? On the OMD I bet it would be dynamite.
Trius
Waiting on Maitani
jarski: Despite how I worded that, it's how zooms (do not) work for me and, I suspect, other people as well. For those who use them easily and well, that's a good thing.
I actually have a zoom that I have used with some success and ease, an OM-mount Tokina 70-150. It is very sharp and fairly compact. But I haven't used it in ages. I'd have to dig to find it; it just doesn't engage me.
The only other zoom I have been tempted to acquire is the Olympus 35-80/2.8, which is reputed to have great optical performance. But it's very spendy, and I have better use for the funds.
I actually have a zoom that I have used with some success and ease, an OM-mount Tokina 70-150. It is very sharp and fairly compact. But I haven't used it in ages. I'd have to dig to find it; it just doesn't engage me.
The only other zoom I have been tempted to acquire is the Olympus 35-80/2.8, which is reputed to have great optical performance. But it's very spendy, and I have better use for the funds.
Johnmcd
Well-known
It's screaming out for the grip Keith!
kuzano
Veteran
Prescription Zooms...
Prescription Zooms...
thought I'd mention my experience with primes vs. zooms. During the film era shooting fantastice OM Zuiko prime lenses on OM film bodies, my weight dropped to precariously dangerous levels. According to a specialist I was referred to, he gave me a complete exam and spent much time discussing how active I had become.
His findings came to the conclusion that I was spending way too much time walking and climbing to locations where I could use my primes effectively and the resulting weight loss was reaching dangerous levels. He put me on Hi Carb, Hi sugar diet and made me exchange all my primes for the longest range zooms I could find.
Amazingly, my photography did not suffer at all, and I am healthy and energetic.
We all have our reasons for the choices we make.
Prescription Zooms...
thought I'd mention my experience with primes vs. zooms. During the film era shooting fantastice OM Zuiko prime lenses on OM film bodies, my weight dropped to precariously dangerous levels. According to a specialist I was referred to, he gave me a complete exam and spent much time discussing how active I had become.
His findings came to the conclusion that I was spending way too much time walking and climbing to locations where I could use my primes effectively and the resulting weight loss was reaching dangerous levels. He put me on Hi Carb, Hi sugar diet and made me exchange all my primes for the longest range zooms I could find.
Amazingly, my photography did not suffer at all, and I am healthy and energetic.
We all have our reasons for the choices we make.
Trius
Waiting on Maitani
Kuzano, did he diagnose why your tongue was permanently attached to the interior wall of your cheek? 
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