dmr
Registered Abuser
Pherdinand said:
Here in the States, anyway, this is a very big deal. It comes from the employer trying to avoid having a hostile or threatening work environment. The blatant display of images even as tame as a bikini pin-up calendar can be, and has been, perceived as intimidating. A hostile work environment is unproductive and bad for business.
I'm not a prude by any means, but sexual harassment does go on, in many forms, and I can honestly say that once I was a victim of one form of it, although I was more than able to take care of it myself and never got HR involved.
However, let's take a one-way trip to the real world. Anybody with Internet on their desk does some surfing on company time. HR knows about it, and might even agree that a little bit of it is healthy for morale. Same as such things as using the copy machine to duplicate your club's newsletter and taking your phone bill down to the mailroom and nonchalantly running it through the postage meter and tossing it in the outgoing mail bag.
Nobody really gets in trouble for those things --- UNLESS ...
... They rub somebody's face into the fact that they are doing it! That's when people start to talk, and bosses and HR start to notice.
If somebody surfs discreetly, even hard-core images, nobody knows, nobody asks, nobody tells.
jan normandale
Film is the other way
Daily I get viagra commercials and a hundred other stock tips, subscription offers and "sexually related" products slipping thru my corporate firewalls and into my email folder. This is life with the internet at work or home. I'm not responsible for this internet dross. I click delete and don't even take a look.
The argument regarding 'nudity at work' is a trojan horse. Those surfing sexual content at work know the risks which have been enthusiastically dissected here. The user is responsible for their choices.
Elsewhere in this undying thread I said amateur nude photography is uninteresting to me. So I'm not going to miss what I don't use if it is 'banned' here at RFF. If there is a desire to ban nudity at RFF that is fine but do not use pretexts. Many posts show the smoke screen is not being bought by all members here.
The argument regarding 'nudity at work' is a trojan horse. Those surfing sexual content at work know the risks which have been enthusiastically dissected here. The user is responsible for their choices.
Elsewhere in this undying thread I said amateur nude photography is uninteresting to me. So I'm not going to miss what I don't use if it is 'banned' here at RFF. If there is a desire to ban nudity at RFF that is fine but do not use pretexts. Many posts show the smoke screen is not being bought by all members here.
jlw
Rangefinder camera pedant
Okay, everyone, how about we rewind a couple of days and pretend I had not been stupid enough to start this thread...?
I should have known that this is one of those topics on which it's impossible to have a focused discussion. Push the hot button and people's knees start jerking, regardless of what you've actually said in your posts.
I should have known that this is one of those topics on which it's impossible to have a focused discussion. Push the hot button and people's knees start jerking, regardless of what you've actually said in your posts.
back alley
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let's talk about religion next...or maybe politics...
so far stephen has not altered the policy about nudes here and that is it's acceptable as long as there is no genitalia or explicit acts etc.
a naked person standing in front of a backdrop is still ok.
joe
so far stephen has not altered the policy about nudes here and that is it's acceptable as long as there is no genitalia or explicit acts etc.
a naked person standing in front of a backdrop is still ok.
joe
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
jlw, you did nothing wrong. People disagreeing with you should not mean knees are jerking, or jerks are kneeling or whatever, it's just disagreement.
dmr, i agree with you. I see no contradiction in my previous post and your reply
There are more levels of this thing.
If i discretely look at a few nudes on my monitor in a coffee break, like the ones on RFF, that's one thing. If i put a Playboy calendar up on the wall in my office, or in the coffee room, or in the lab, or on the corridor, that is different thing I would say.
In the first case, one can only see it if he/shge walks there and takes a look at my screen in that exact moment. I don't see how this can be any form of sexual harrassment, unless the person likes to be harrassed and is looking for the occasion.
In the second case, all my coworkers would be forced to see that calendar every damn day. Sure they have the right to tell me to f@ck off with my calendar. But even in this case, as you mention it in your case, he/she should first try to solve the problem with me directly.
jlw, don't panic. I know this is a bit off topic of your original idea.
dmr, i agree with you. I see no contradiction in my previous post and your reply
There are more levels of this thing.
If i discretely look at a few nudes on my monitor in a coffee break, like the ones on RFF, that's one thing. If i put a Playboy calendar up on the wall in my office, or in the coffee room, or in the lab, or on the corridor, that is different thing I would say.
In the first case, one can only see it if he/shge walks there and takes a look at my screen in that exact moment. I don't see how this can be any form of sexual harrassment, unless the person likes to be harrassed and is looking for the occasion.
In the second case, all my coworkers would be forced to see that calendar every damn day. Sure they have the right to tell me to f@ck off with my calendar. But even in this case, as you mention it in your case, he/she should first try to solve the problem with me directly.
jlw, don't panic. I know this is a bit off topic of your original idea.
fgianni
Trainee Amateur
back alley said:
Sure? I'll post a nude self portrait then we'll see if it's ok (after the forum members have finished throwing up)
Silva Lining
CanoHasseLeica
dadsm3 said:
Hey, I get my weed from the girl on reception too! ....oh
kevin m
Veteran
Period, end of story.
If you're viewing anything of a personal nature on your computer at work, you're a fool. IT dept's can record your every keystroke, if they so desire, and they often do.
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fgianni said:Sure? I'll post a nude self portrait then we'll see if it's ok (after the forum members have finished throwing up)
just as long as your camera is covering the bits...
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
back alley said:just as long as your camera is covering the bits...
Oh i'm sure a Minox will be enough to cover all those details