New York Times - Seriously ?
a photograph of street photographers at a Paris fashion show is captioned
"A scrum of street-style photographers in action outside a fashion show in Paris." published 9/28/2017
A SCRUM of photographers ???? What planet do you guys live on?
You can find the article by Elizabeth Paton here
If the link does not work, search "New York Times Street Photographers, Unite"
I would write more, but having just discovered the existence of SCRUMS,
I am on my way to the New York Times to photograph live SCRUMS of almost-famous-style New York Times writers
hovering about their editors waiting for a story to exploit.
EDIT
I wonder if the author used the term SCRUM or if it was added later by an editor attempting to make the piece more attention getting
I would love to see as photo showing a SCRUM of New York Times Editors or writers published in the New York Times
I doubt that day will come anytime soon, as SCRUM is a little bit too close to SCUM
and so might be perceived as a demeaning or derogatory comment about the powers that be at the New York Times
-- actually I am a big NYT fan
that is why I was not happy to see my profession negatively portrayed by a play on words
of course what you see is up to you, but that is how I see the non rugby use of the word SCRUM
a photograph of street photographers at a Paris fashion show is captioned
"A scrum of street-style photographers in action outside a fashion show in Paris." published 9/28/2017
A SCRUM of photographers ???? What planet do you guys live on?
You can find the article by Elizabeth Paton here
If the link does not work, search "New York Times Street Photographers, Unite"
I would write more, but having just discovered the existence of SCRUMS,
I am on my way to the New York Times to photograph live SCRUMS of almost-famous-style New York Times writers
hovering about their editors waiting for a story to exploit.
EDIT
I wonder if the author used the term SCRUM or if it was added later by an editor attempting to make the piece more attention getting
I would love to see as photo showing a SCRUM of New York Times Editors or writers published in the New York Times
I doubt that day will come anytime soon, as SCRUM is a little bit too close to SCUM
and so might be perceived as a demeaning or derogatory comment about the powers that be at the New York Times
-- actually I am a big NYT fan
that is why I was not happy to see my profession negatively portrayed by a play on words
of course what you see is up to you, but that is how I see the non rugby use of the word SCRUM
Paulbe
Well-known
She found a new word, just had to use it....
Huss
Veteran
Guess she's never played rugby.
Michael Markey
Veteran
It `s used reasonably frequently in that context ie to describe a pushing ,thrusting melee of people in the UK.
No surprise I guess being a Rugby term.
No surprise I guess being a Rugby term.
johnf04
Well-known
Huss
Veteran
This bit is funny:
"Members of the group, which calls itself an “unofficial union” named “The Photographers,” began adding the hashtag #NoFreePhotos to photos uploaded on their Instagram accounts — where collectively, a spokesman said, they have three million followers."
The moment u post an image to Instagram, FB, Twitter etc etc that site owns it and can monetize it in any way they want.
"Members of the group, which calls itself an “unofficial union” named “The Photographers,” began adding the hashtag #NoFreePhotos to photos uploaded on their Instagram accounts — where collectively, a spokesman said, they have three million followers."
The moment u post an image to Instagram, FB, Twitter etc etc that site owns it and can monetize it in any way they want.
johnf04
Well-known
The more accurate rugby term for a group of players trying to win the ball, is a "maul", or a "ruck". If the group is moving, it's a "rolling maul".
Anyway they want?
and these people are making a living at street photography? or are just mad that they aren't making a living from street fashion?
PKR
Veteran
Anyone remember Bill Cunningham?
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/26/...ry-times-fashion-photographer-dies-at-87.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/26/...ry-times-fashion-photographer-dies-at-87.html
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrum_(software_development)
This is the only SCRUM google knows. And google knows everything.
This is the only SCRUM google knows. And google knows everything.
Huss
Veteran
Yup, it's all in the fine print in the terms of agreement.
It is why I never post real work that I sell at my gallery online in social media, or on flickr, or on photobucket. The moment u do, they own it.
PKR
Veteran
Sometime back I bought and sold a lot of lenses on eBay. When selling, I simply set up a table in the daylight studio and took several photos of a lens I wanted to put up for auction. My photos, I guess because they looked professional (didn't take much), came to the attention of eBay. I got a note from them saying they were going to take all of my past auction photos for their photo library- unless I objected. I objected. They then sent me another note saying any photos posted after a certain date were theirs.
All the interweb social platforms want anything, they think they can monetize.
Freakscene
Obscure member
The laws of rugby http://laws.worldrugby.org/downloads/World_Rugby_Laws_2017_EN.pdf
Define what's a scrum, ruck and maul, and they are all different.
I got out of playing at school by learning the rules and refereeing. When I graduated, age 17, I still weighed under 50kg. Several of my classmates were already on their way to playing for the wallabies.
Marty
PKR
Veteran
Ha! .... I just picked up the unread portion of last Sunday's NYT. In the Sunday Business section, front page, above the fold:
"Oil's Mysterious Middlemen"
by David Segal
First paragraph, second sentence : "A scrum of law enforcement officials..."
Must have been a memo sent out to all NYT writers.. use the word "Scrum" ! Or, maybe Elizabeth and David are conspiring to invade journalism with Scrum? Scrabble word ?
got me..
Stephen; Don't forget to get a photo of David Segal, for your "NYT Scrumologists" series.
"Oil's Mysterious Middlemen"
by David Segal
First paragraph, second sentence : "A scrum of law enforcement officials..."
Must have been a memo sent out to all NYT writers.. use the word "Scrum" ! Or, maybe Elizabeth and David are conspiring to invade journalism with Scrum? Scrabble word ?
got me..
Stephen; Don't forget to get a photo of David Segal, for your "NYT Scrumologists" series.
johnf04
Well-known
I didn't want to make it too complicated.
Huss
Veteran
Perhaps 'scrum' is going to replace 'double down' as the key phrase for the media.
PKR
Veteran
I think these writers are just jealous of all the new words technology writers get to use, and they're getting desperate.
Richard G
Veteran
Scrum seems quite accurate for what the photographers are doing, united.
ROOOO
Established
What, exactly, is your issue with the use of the word "scrum"? I know several of these photographers from having worked myself on a multi-year-long project covering fashion weeks. "Scrum" seems like an apt description of what often happens outside the shows. Even the OED acknowledges its definition beyond the rugby field.
PKR
Veteran
OED paper or on line?
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/scrum
Who is the opposing side? The fashion people/models? Seems like a stretch in usage.
I always find the use of shutter or shuttered interesting. As in:"The jury was shuttered for two hours, while the judge spoke with lawyers from both sides". Makes me ask: were they open or closed.. partly open?
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/shuttered
Maybe someone with an English degree can splain this to me?