NYT "a SCRUM of street-style photographers"

ROOOO said:
Definition 1.1 in your link: "A disorderly crowd of people or things."
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Yes, I saw that.. in one instance the group is quite orderly in the other it's disorderly. It seems we must be liberal with our language and its meaning today?

As a former PJ, where I was always concerned with accuracy, it seems sloppy for the NYT, "The paper of record".

I did see the "informal" in 1.1.

best, pkr
 
For years, the journalists who question politicians in Canada’s parliament have gathered in “a scum.” Nothing new about that use of the term up here.
 
Big Ursus said:
For years, the journalists who question politicians in Canada’s parliament have gathered in “a scum.” Nothing new about that use of the term up here.
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Does that mean organized or disorganized? pretty confusing as per the definitions.
 
Big Ursus said:
For years, the journalists who question politicians in Canada’s parliament have gathered in “a scum.” Nothing new about that use of the term up here.
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I worked for the AP for just over 3 years in DC and Baltimore (1997-2000), and we called it a scrum as well:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_scrum

Don't know why some people are amazed at the use of this term.
 
"Does that mean organized or disorganized? pretty confusing as per the definitions."

Quite organized; some look like press conferences in the House of Commons' lobby, others appear more impromptu, but there's little violence except to the truth.
 
Just heard SCRUM used on AM radio. On a talk show, the host referred a press gathering as a Press Scrum.

Can we use the term(s) "Scrum Bum" to define a lesser member of a Scrum? Maybe the Chief Scrumologist will chime in on the usage of "Scrum Bum"?

And:
Scrum Slum (example: A place where the press scrum, re-scrum, after the event, to imbibe in cheap alcohol and exchange lies.)

Scrum gum
Scrum gun
Scrum Bait (not to be confused with "Scrum Chum", though similar in taste? This could also apply as in the term "click bait", as a Scrum enticement or magnet)


Edit:
Scrum Chum (Scrum who become Chum.. tasty, say the sharks! "Scrum-O-lcious")
Scrum Chums, Scrum Chummers
Scrum Crums
Thanks to rhl-oregon

Stephen's comment on Scrum vs Scum is interesting, given the publisher(s) using Scrum. In it's "disorganized" usage, is likened to "paparazzi" as opposed to the organized, "real press photographers".
 
If you toss a naked supermodel with a roll of aluminum foil onto the streets of NY, are you chumming the scrum, or throwing a crumb to chumps who may or may not be chums?

Inquiring twiddlers want to know. ��
 
CameraQuest said:
New York Times - Seriously ?

a photograph of street photographers at a Paris fashion show is captioned
"A scrum of street-style photographers in action outside a fashion show in Paris." published 9/28/2017

A SCRUM of photographers ???? What planet do you guys live on?

You can find the article by Elizabeth Paton here

If the link does not work, search "New York Times Street Photographers, Unite"

I would write more, but having just discovered the existence of SCRUMS,
I am on my way to the New York Times to photograph live SCRUMS of almost-famous-style New York Times writers
hovering about their editors waiting for a story to exploit.

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I wonder if the author used the term SCRUM or if it was added later by an editor attempting to make the piece more attention getting

I would love to see as photo showing a SCRUM of New York Times Editors or writers published in the New York Times

I doubt that day will come anytime soon, as SCRUM is a little bit too close to SCUM

and so might be perceived as a demeaning or derogatory comment about the powers that be at the New York Times

-- actually I am a big NYT fan

that is why I was not happy to see my profession negatively portrayed by a play on words

of course what you see is up to you, but that is how I see the non rugby use of the word SCRUM
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Holy over blown posts :)

Richard G said:
Scrum seems quite accurate for what the photographers are doing, united.
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Exactly :)
 
I think it would depend on size and context. For example, you might refer to a group of photographers at a press briefing as a scrum, but you might refer to a large group of photographers at a tourist destination as a herd.
 
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