Oedipal exposure: Leigh Ledare's photographs of his mother having sex
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sevo
Fokutorendaburando
Clever idea, and well done.
paulfish4570
Veteran
this is just too, uh, too ...
kbg32
neo-romanticist
Yup, I agree with all of the above. I have mixed opinions about this. I posted this to hopefully begin an interesting discussion.
daveleo
what?
I skipped the link, based on the thread title.
I like sex as much as anyone, but . . . pictures of his mother having sex?
Actually now that I think about it it probably should be titled "pictures of some guy(s) having sex with my mother"
Okay, I've been smarta$$ enough for now.
I like sex as much as anyone, but . . . pictures of his mother having sex?
Actually now that I think about it it probably should be titled "pictures of some guy(s) having sex with my mother"
Okay, I've been smarta$$ enough for now.
--s
Well-known
is it a leica?
Frank Petronio
Well-known
His prints sell for $8K and his Mom's private dances went up to $1500 equals a win-win for them.
Artists aren't much different from nutty whores, other than the smart ones make a lot more money.
Artists aren't much different from nutty whores, other than the smart ones make a lot more money.
DominikDUK
Well-known
And some even sleep with their patrons/pimps. 🙂
Actually this whole things says a lot about the buyers I mean seriously they could get the same thing on youporn for free. Download the thing, project the video on cinema a screen and you have 30 images per seconds. A low res pixelated video could be sold as art
Actually this whole things says a lot about the buyers I mean seriously they could get the same thing on youporn for free. Download the thing, project the video on cinema a screen and you have 30 images per seconds. A low res pixelated video could be sold as art
Takkun
Ian M.
I find it an interesting concept, especially after reading the backstory.
However, something that I can't get over about a lot of conceptual photography is that it's often half-baked or overdone, and more often than not it's all in that same lo-fi, Nan Goldin sort of style.
I don't know. As an artist, I usually shoot whats in front of me and see what comes of it, and my viewers are the ones to impose meaning onto it.
I suppose I enjoyed reading his biography more than his work. Visually, it wasn't particularly moving.
However, something that I can't get over about a lot of conceptual photography is that it's often half-baked or overdone, and more often than not it's all in that same lo-fi, Nan Goldin sort of style.
I don't know. As an artist, I usually shoot whats in front of me and see what comes of it, and my viewers are the ones to impose meaning onto it.
I suppose I enjoyed reading his biography more than his work. Visually, it wasn't particularly moving.
kbg32
neo-romanticist
I wasn't particularly fond of Nan Goldin's work. I worked for a gallery that represented her and met her quite a few times back in the early 80s. I wasn't impressed. I didn't like that she capitalized on images of her friends after they were beaten by their boyfriends, and doing drugs. I couldn't even imagine taking photographs of my tween, teen, and early adult escapades. Maybe kudos to them. In my day I would have been killed for the money my camera could have bought in drugs.
Larry Clark she was not.
What message is there in this?
Larry Clark she was not.
What message is there in this?
Richard G
Veteran
Nurture. Or nature.
zauhar
Veteran
I was going to post this too, but was too embarrassed. Thanks Keith!
Randy
Randy
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Leigh Ledare is hung up on this kind of thing. At Arles 2010 there was a (very tedious) series of pictures about (if I recall) his ex-wife and her current husband. For me, his is conceptual art of the weakest kind: the sort where once you know the concept, you don't need to see the pictures. Indeed, it may be better if you don't see the pictures. I find Nan Goldin similar: interesting idea, negligible realization.
Cheers,
R.
Cheers,
R.
kbg32
neo-romanticist
I did feel a bit funny Randy, but I think we may be seeing a lot more of this type of work, if not his, others for sure. However one feels about it, it certainly is there for all to see.
paulfish4570
Veteran
from frank petronio, the RFF quote of the year: "Artists aren't much different from nutty whores, other than the smart ones make a lot more money."
kbg32
neo-romanticist
I always found Goldin's work "boring". Ok, been there. Done that. (Except beating the girlfriend!) I didn't think she lead, or set an example of a life I would want to lead. In fact, I find people who I meet everyday, who struggle with work, family, and their own demons, to lead much more interesting lives.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Dear Keith,
I see your point, but she (or her publicists) surprisingly often manage to make it sound interesting. Only repeated exposure to her pictures can enable full understanding of just how dull a photographer she is. Even now, I might be taken in enough to visit a Goldin exhibition if I didn't have to go more than ten yards out of my way.
As for "been there, done that", I have led a far more sheltered life than hers. Google "Klara and Edda belly dancing" (or is it "Edda and Klara Belly Dancing?). I've certainly never seen anything similar, and if I had, I doubt I'd have taken a picture.
Cheers,
R.
kbg32
neo-romanticist
Roger, I've seen quite a bit of her work. She got her start and received attention by doing slides shows of her images in clubs in NYC. I always thought of her work as part of that "scene". Nothing impressive.
"Klara and Edda belly dancing" Sad that she needs to take photos such as these to get attention.
"Klara and Edda belly dancing" Sad that she needs to take photos such as these to get attention.
zauhar
Veteran
Indeed, the envelope is always being pushed. Next, some guy will really engage in sex with his mom as conceptual art. I wouldn't be surprised if someone already did it.
Randy
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Dear Keith,
Sorry: I didn't mean to imply that you weren't familiar with her work. Rather, the opposite. As I said, "Only repeated exposure to her pictures can enable full understanding of just how dull a photographer she is." The more you see -- and you may well have seen more than I -- the more you realize just how dull a photographer she is. Your opinion of her work may therefore lower than mine, though obviously, this would not be easy. "Google..." was not so much for you as for others. Again, apologies.
Cheers,
R.
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