Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
I have one IIIc (1942) that is my go-to camera, usually with a 5cm Hektor or Xenon mounted on it. The other ones get to have a turn every once in a while.
In the meantime a IIIf RD has been added as well.
David Hughes
David Hughes
I feel very guilty about my previous post (No 91) and so here is the missing picture, showing mostly some 1920's and 30's cassettes:-
The one on the far right is a Perutz and is the smallest of them all but it fits a 1926 Barnack OK. In the middle is the Agfa Isopan one and so on.
Regards, David
The one on the far right is a Perutz and is the smallest of them all but it fits a 1926 Barnack OK. In the middle is the Agfa Isopan one and so on.
Regards, David
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CharlesDAMorgan
Veteran
Very interesting David, thank you! I'm currently two thirds the way through my first roll in the Leica III and will see if there are any issues. I'm soon going to start loading some of my own film, so perhaps I should find a suitable cartridge, for this - a stock of pre-cut film for the III seems a sensible idea.
Erik van Straten
Veteran
David Hughes
David Hughes
Just for you:-
Perutz was offered as a standard with a new camera a long time ago:-
and that's why I wanted the cassette as my chances of getting the film are low but, OTOH, I may have some in my anonymous stuff...
Regards, David
Dralowid
Michael
No mention of that old alloy Ilford cassette that used to get stuck in the camera...and when you tried to pull it out by the spool you ran the risk of pulling the top of the cassette. So you put more tape on it and it made it even more difficult to extract.
No mention either of the darling Shirley Wellard. If you managed to get her into the camera you will never get her out!
No mention either of the darling Shirley Wellard. If you managed to get her into the camera you will never get her out!
Erik van Straten
Veteran
Just for you:-
Perutz was offered as a standard with a new camera a long time ago:-
and that's why I wanted the cassette as my chances of getting the film are low but, OTOH, I may have some in my anonymous stuff...
Regards, David
Thank you, David, I'll give you my address (only joking).
It is a fact that the Perutz-film had the finest grain, but it was slow. Maybe that was the reason that Cartier-Bresson went in 1932 to sunny Marseille to try out his first Leica. He bought that camera at Tiranty (the first official French Leica-importer) with money he borrowed from his father. He first used Perutz but later tried Agfa.
Erik.
CharlesDAMorgan
Veteran
My Summicron dual range being away for servicing, I had to use my Nikon macro zoom 29-105mm. But it looks so much nicer on film.
David Hughes
David Hughes
That explains why I had so much trouble finding an old Ilford cassette for the display cabinet. They were all torn around the side of the lids. In the end I gave up and have the least worst on display...
It reminds me of an acid test; you can't put a genuine FILCA in a fake Leica (nor a FED/Zorki).
Regards, David
Dralowid
Michael
I think I have an HP3 one somewhere...If I find it I'm happy to swap it for something obscure and equally valueless in the eyes of the unknowing...
David Hughes
David Hughes
Thanks, but would you believe I got out of bed very early this morning, or late last night. and went straight to the box I'd remembered I'd put all the half used films in that I found in old cameras? I had a lot of fun after breakfast going through them and wondering and found an Ilford FP3 cassette.
Thanks again.
Regards, David
Dralowid
Michael
I remember FP3 being rather nice whereas HP3 was akin to a ploughed field (well, with my Johnsons based processing it was!)
citizen99
Well-known
Take-up spools: FED/ZORKI/<whatever> 1 by John Hancock, on FlickrA bit late to the thread, I've just remembered this sample of some random take-up spool dimensions. They're labelled according to the cameras with which they came to me, but that means nothing certain about their original allocations. I used the packing washer trick where necessary.
lxmike
M2 fan.
David Hughes
David Hughes
Yes, I cut my teeth on it; so much so that I now and then ask for it in dealers and then realise; I guess old habits die hard...
Luckily my nearest camera and film shop is a proper one and they didn't fall about laughing.
Regards, David
Scrambler
Well-known
Just for you:-
Perutz was offered as a standard with a new camera a long time ago:-
and that's why I wanted the cassette as my chances of getting the film are low but, OTOH, I may have some in my anonymous stuff...
Regards, David
It finally dawned on me that this has prices. So something like the equivalent of 10 pounds per roll of 35mm film - nothing much has changed in nearly 100 years. On the other hand the Leica was more like 1250 pounds: cheaper new then than they are now! Though of course no built-in rangefinder.
Erik van Straten
Veteran
David Hughes
David Hughes
Interestingly I also did a few searches about inflation and my 2d worth is that the camera today would be costing anything between UKP1170 to 1210 with an upper value of 8988 that I've ignored and the 10/= worth £22 to £28 with an outside value of £30.
The trouble is that every one uses different tables and approaches. Years ago I spent a lot of time trying to think of jobs that existed over the centuries and didn't change like (say) postmen or soldiers but even then finding out their pay year by year was a problem.
Anyway, you had to be rich then, as now, for Leicas...
Regards, David
PS The advert was in a 1929 copy of a magazine.
The trouble is that every one uses different tables and approaches. Years ago I spent a lot of time trying to think of jobs that existed over the centuries and didn't change like (say) postmen or soldiers but even then finding out their pay year by year was a problem.
Anyway, you had to be rich then, as now, for Leicas...
Regards, David
PS The advert was in a 1929 copy of a magazine.
Dralowid
Michael
I bought a Leica III and Elmar in 1965. It cost, from memory, £35 10s 0d (Wallace Heaton second hand dept so probably a bit expensive even though black was cheaper).
Again from memory I think a Leica III and Elmar cost £35 or thereabouts in 1935. A small car was around £100.
Today, I'd expect the same camera and lens to be around £350 if in good shape and supported by some form of warranty.
Trying to make sense of inflation over the years is well nigh impossible. Basing value on average weekly wage seems like a good idea but is equally unreliable.
Again from memory I think a Leica III and Elmar cost £35 or thereabouts in 1935. A small car was around £100.
Today, I'd expect the same camera and lens to be around £350 if in good shape and supported by some form of warranty.
Trying to make sense of inflation over the years is well nigh impossible. Basing value on average weekly wage seems like a good idea but is equally unreliable.
CharlesDAMorgan
Veteran
First roll died as I thought it had been fully rewound and opened up the base plate to find it hadn't...
Second roll survived the loading and unloading. I was shooting with a Summitar I just bought on Delta 400 pushed to 1600 as I was shooting inside a dark engine shed at Didcot Railway centre. First, it was very difficult to focus in that light and secondly, I must have been using the viewfinder incorrectly as I had a tiny bit of cropping at the top of each frame. Next time I'll be a bit further back. But I liked the results mostly and enjoyed shooting a 1933 camera in a 1932 engine shed!
Semi-stand in Rodinal 1:50 for one hour.
Second roll survived the loading and unloading. I was shooting with a Summitar I just bought on Delta 400 pushed to 1600 as I was shooting inside a dark engine shed at Didcot Railway centre. First, it was very difficult to focus in that light and secondly, I must have been using the viewfinder incorrectly as I had a tiny bit of cropping at the top of each frame. Next time I'll be a bit further back. But I liked the results mostly and enjoyed shooting a 1933 camera in a 1932 engine shed!
Semi-stand in Rodinal 1:50 for one hour.