Trius
Waiting on Maitani
Chris will be along any moment to comment about the ugly bokeh of the 50/1.8. 
pggunn
gregor
Chris will be along any moment to comment about the ugly bokeh of the 50/1.8.
Ha, you're probably right! I've read some of his posts on that topic, but I guess I'd rather have ugly bokeh than no bokeh at all! Besides, that's kind of the way I see the world these days. I need to have my prescription filled!
Chriscrawfordphoto
Real Men Shoot Film.
That 50/1.8 sure has awful ugly bokeh.
pggunn
gregor
Hi Chris. Sorry about that. Didn't mean to hurt your eyes. Next time I'll use the 50/1.4 or stop down.
Take care.
Take care.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
One thing I've noticed about my Zuiko 50mm 1.4 early version, and I'm sure Chris or possibly Roland can elaborate here, is the marked difference between how it sees the world at f1.4 compared to f2! It's like two different lenses ... extremely soft wide open but stop it down to f2 and bingo ... quite sharp! Oddly this behaviour seems far less apparent when shooting at close to it's minimum focusing capability!
Was this a major design short coming in the early lens or was it something they always factored into it's design ... what did they do wth subsequent versions to overcome this?
Was this a major design short coming in the early lens or was it something they always factored into it's design ... what did they do wth subsequent versions to overcome this?
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ruby.monkey
Veteran
Curses. Now I have to break out both silver- and black-nose 50mm f/1.4s to find out. And I'd been looking forward to test-driving my new 100mm f/2.8. Damn you, Keith!
Trius
Waiting on Maitani
Thanks, Chris for surprising us.
I have put the 50/1.4 (600xxx range) away for awhile in favour of the 50/1.8 miJ. In addition to being Chris-contrarian, I felt I wanted to reaquaint myself with it, plus enjoy the smaller size.
I have put the 50/1.4 (600xxx range) away for awhile in favour of the 50/1.8 miJ. In addition to being Chris-contrarian, I felt I wanted to reaquaint myself with it, plus enjoy the smaller size.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
Curses. Now I have to break out both silver- and black-nose 50mm f/1.4s to find out. And I'd been looking forward to test-driving my new 100mm f/2.8. Damn you, Keith!
LOL ... I don't mind it's softness at 1.4 because it really is superb at f2 ... I rate it as one of the best 50mm lenses I own for black and white shooting.
When I want real speed and bokeh to make my head spin ... I pick up my 50mm 1.2!
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
I assume you're asking me.
Not too much, Frank, certainly not worth the shipping cost to Texas from Canada.
That's why I still haven't had it to this day, I'm too cheap to spring for one outright
I'll keep looking for local kits for sale.
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
Great image, shadowfox. Here is another "modern japanesey" stuff from a Kissaten in SF. It's also from 85/2 (version 2).
Nice, Sug.
I often wonder why people say that this lens is not sharp, I've never had any problems getting pictures at f/2 that are sometimes too sharp (pores look great on a guy's portrait, but don't even bring that up to a lady
)philosomatographer
Well-known
Don't forget the amazing, amazing Macro glass in this system.
I have been shooting an OM-1n for about a year now as my exclusive small-format system, and recently was the kind recipient of a mint OM-2n, both of which are wonderful cameras: Jewel-like in their beauty, but purpose-made tools.
20/3.5 @ 15x magnification @ f/16 = strong diffraction at this aperture, but what the heck (OM-2n, natural light):
90mm f/2.0 @ f/11 (OM-1n, natural light):
Both on FP4, scanned silver-gelatin prints. In my opinion, the 90/2.0 s the be-all-end-all of 35mm SLR lenses to date. Not because it's the best (sharpest, most flare-free, etc) lens ever, but because of the "character" of the lens. Leica "glow"? Bah!
Church of Maitani, eh?
I have been shooting an OM-1n for about a year now as my exclusive small-format system, and recently was the kind recipient of a mint OM-2n, both of which are wonderful cameras: Jewel-like in their beauty, but purpose-made tools.
20/3.5 @ 15x magnification @ f/16 = strong diffraction at this aperture, but what the heck (OM-2n, natural light):
90mm f/2.0 @ f/11 (OM-1n, natural light):
Both on FP4, scanned silver-gelatin prints. In my opinion, the 90/2.0 s the be-all-end-all of 35mm SLR lenses to date. Not because it's the best (sharpest, most flare-free, etc) lens ever, but because of the "character" of the lens. Leica "glow"? Bah!
Church of Maitani, eh?
oscroft
Veteran
Hmm, I did a count recently, and it's 5 bodies (OM1n, 3xOM2n, OM4T), and 13 lenses - and they all get used.
ColinW
* Click *
I'll second that Keith.
Chris, I know your feelings on this (you may have mentioned it before
), but let's be honest, is there such a thing as a bad Zuiko? Whoops, maybe should have started a new thread with that one!
Chriscrawfordphoto
Real Men Shoot Film.
Hi Chris. Sorry about that. Didn't mean to hurt your eyes. Next time I'll use the 50/1.4 or stop down.
Take care.
Gregor,
When I posted that post about the 1.8 having ugly bokeh I wasn't paying attention. I didn't notice that earlier you had put one of your pics up from that lens. :bang: So, that wasn't directed at you. LOL I saw Trius's post saying I'd be around soon to complain about the 50/1.8 bokeh so I obliged him by complaining
coelacanth
Ride, dive, shoot.
Nice, Sug.
I often wonder why people say that this lens is not sharp, I've never had any problems getting pictures at f/2 that are sometimes too sharp (pores look great on a guy's portrait, but don't even bring that up to a lady
Hey thanks Will.
Yeah, I've never had problem with my 85/2. The beauty of this lens is that it shows softness if you shoot soft things while it beautifully renders sold stuff from wide open as well.
To prove point, here is another 85/2 wide open shot from my friends' wedding last week.
pggunn
gregor
Gregor,
When I posted that post about the 1.8 having ugly bokeh I wasn't paying attention. I didn't notice that earlier you had put one of your pics up from that lens. :bang: So, that wasn't directed at you. LOL I saw Trius's post saying I'd be around soon to complain about the 50/1.8 bokeh so I obliged him by complaining
No problems! I do have a sense of humor,
and like I said before, that's not what I consider a great picture by any means - just demonstrating that at least the camera works very well even though the photographer might not always!pggunn
gregor
Hi Keith,
Very interesting. I'll be shooting the 50/1.4 this weekend and will make a point of comparing wide open with one stop down.
Just got a later version in the mail yesterday, serial number 1148833. It looks like it's never been used!
Enjoy your weekend.
Greg
Renzsu
Well-known
Hi guys, I was just given an Oly OM-2 with a bunch of lenses and accessories. My aunt saw me shooting with my Hasselblad and M6 and mentioned that she still had a bunch of old camera gear in a drawer at home that I could have if I wanted... who am I to say no right?
There was too much to bring home in my backpack, so I just brought the OM-2 and 50 1.8 with me, but there were 3 more zooms, one Zuiko, one Vivitar and one who's name I already forgot. Also a 28 3.5 and I think a 90 2.0 macro. Also there was a bunch of filters (each lens already had filters on it, wow ), a bellow system, an enlarger for slide copying and some other things. Once I get all the stuff sorted I'll shoot a picture of it.
The OM-2 has some battery residue in the battery compartment, I got a tip that I can clean that with q-tips and clear vinegar, so I'll give that a shot before I put some new batteries in it.
There was too much to bring home in my backpack, so I just brought the OM-2 and 50 1.8 with me, but there were 3 more zooms, one Zuiko, one Vivitar and one who's name I already forgot. Also a 28 3.5 and I think a 90 2.0 macro. Also there was a bunch of filters (each lens already had filters on it, wow
), a bellow system, an enlarger for slide copying and some other things. Once I get all the stuff sorted I'll shoot a picture of it.The OM-2 has some battery residue in the battery compartment, I got a tip that I can clean that with q-tips and clear vinegar, so I'll give that a shot before I put some new batteries in it.
philosomatographer
Well-known
Wow, if you received a gift 90/2.0, you are one very very lucky guy.
Renzsu
Well-known
Hmm yeah I just realized.. I looked it up on some online shops and
Well I'm not 100% sure, next weekend I'm going to try to pick everything up, all I know is that one of the lenses was a 90/f2.0 and I'm pretty sure it had macro on it..
I'm going to have some fun with this camera, that's I DO know