one more time - too many pics!!

[back alley]

cut & pasted from the 'for the newbies' thread.
this usually gets sent to the offending newcomers.

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greetings and welcome to the rangefinder forum.

it truly is wonderful to see so many people joining our community.
we have a short but rich history where humour and respect for each other have been the keys to success.


i want to make a suggestion, when you are posting your photos to the gallery, please take the time to note what camera/lens/film combination you used to make that photo.
the membership had a long discussion awhile back and found that many of us look as forward to the info about the photo as we do the photos themselves.

and also, when posting please do not post a dozen or more pics at a time, it leaves us little opportunity to see all the new postings and to make comments on them.
some people and their pics gets pushed along and the pics are not viewed.

there are (so far) no hard rules about posting pics and your cooperation will ensure that none will be needed.

many thanks,
joe
your faithful moderator

 

[Roger Hicks]

It may be of moderatec interest what camera/lens/film/exposure someone used, but ask yourself this:

1 Am I using the same camera?
2 Am I using the same lens?
3 Am I using the same film?
4 Am I using the same meter?
5 Am I using the same film speed?
6 Am I using the same metering technique?
7 Am I shooting the same subject?
8 Is it under identical lighting?

If ANY ONE answer is different, consider the possibility that the information requested is substantially useless.

Cheers,

Roger

 

[breakaway]

no caps still?

 

[back alley]

It may be of moderatec interest what camera/lens/film/exposure someone used, but ask yourself this:

1 Am I using the same camera?
2 Am I using the same lens?
3 Am I using the same film?
4 Am I using the same meter?
5 Am I using the same film speed?
6 Am I using the same metering technique?
7 Am I shooting the same subject?
8 Is it under identical lighting?

If ANY ONE answer is different, consider the possibility that the information requested is substantially useless.

Cheers,

Roger

roger,
must you argue about everything? 🙂

some of us enjoy knowing some of the details, the more details the better.

and caps are bourgeois...😉

joe

 

[JoeFriday]

be that as it may, I like to know a little about the equipment used for any given shot

the lens, in particular, is good to know since I might be considering purchasing that same lens, and would like to see its perspective

film info is interesting in that it shows a sample of what the grain might be like, unless it has been processed in an unusual way

while it is potentially useless, it is also potentially very informative.. no one is reprimanded for his or her choice to share or withhold information here.. but the more we share, the more we can all learn

 

[kiev4a]

How about a message more to the point:

"Don't post so many damn photos at the same time!"

 

[MP Guy]

I may impose a 10 picture per day upload limit in the near future. RFF has a GIGANTIC collection of pictures 🙂

 

[Roger Hicks]

Dear Joe,

OF COURSE I have to argue about everything. It's what I get paid for... (not here, alas... but take a look at the back page of Amateur Photographer magazine in the UK)

Yes, the details are often interesting -- but are they actually worth anything? Many people conflate 'MP, 75/2 Summicron Aspheric, Kodak EBX' with 'has the faintest idea of what he is doing because he owns an expensive camera', whereas you and I know fuill well that 'Is bloody good and could produce stunning pics with anything' (I hasten to add that I wish to make no such claim) is a lot nearer the mark.

The attached pic tells the story. Of course, every one else on the forum has the option of shooting exactly the same subject (a 200+-year-old pewter charger) in in MY studio with MY lighting on 56x72mm Ilford film, using a Linhof.

Sorry, don't want to appear combative, but that's how it is.

Cheers,

Roger

 

[schaubild]

I won't bring the sentence about the quality vs. quantity issue and the art of self criticism again. The gallery has become almost useless to me, good shots are drowning under the masses of snapshots. I chose to look directly at the few galleries from photographers I know from here.

 

[GeneW]

It may be of moderatec interest what camera/lens/film/exposure someone used, but ask yourself this:

1 Am I using the same camera?
2 Am I using the same lens?
3 Am I using the same film?
4 Am I using the same meter?
5 Am I using the same film speed?
6 Am I using the same metering technique?
7 Am I shooting the same subject?
8 Is it under identical lighting?

If ANY ONE answer is different, consider the possibility that the information requested is substantially useless.

Cheers,

Roger

Roger, that's a silly statement. I don't read this info so I can duplicate someone else's photo -- I read for curiosity and the often-encountered moment of 'ah, I never thought of trying out that particular combination -- here's an example and I really like what I'm seeing -- I may give that film/lens combo a whirl one of these days.'

When I see no info posted, I get a feeling of incompleteness, as if the photographer didn't know/remember/care.

Gene

 

[back alley]

roger,
i have not been able to locate that mag here in edmonton.

while i understand your comments and somewhat agree - i agree more with gene.

most here are curious about the details and hope to learn from, deduce from, and gain some form of inspiration from.

you of all people here, with such a burning desire to educate us in all things, surprise me, that you would hold this info back from us. 😉

joe

 

[peter_n]

{snip} When I see no info posted, I get a feeling of incompleteness, as if the photographer didn't know/remember/care.

Gene

Agree with your sentiment, Gene.

Brett - well said earlier in the thread! 🙂 I too am particularly interested in lens information.

Jorge - I don't think that 10 is enough of a limit. 5 is more like it.

 

[jan normandale]

I'm probably an offender. I get a lot of shots save up and then take about 6/7 rolls of film into the processing shop and put onto CD's. Then when I get them back I have to admit that the details get a little vague. Some are shot on AE others are fully manual. I have five 120 / med format cameras and a slew of 35 mm cameras. Some are Olympus (XA, XA2, RC, etc) Some are Yashica (GSN, Lynx 14, Electro etc) MF Ikonta ( 531, 532) Voigtlander (Perkeo, Perkeo II)

I don't remember what is going on when I'm shooting. I just shoot. Did I use AE on the Mamiya? Did I use AE on the Oly? Did I use manual on the Yashica?

Last week I loaded 11 shots. Fair comment regarding several views. Some people view my shots as snapshots and not photographs so they don't bother to look at them because they have a favoured short list, others want the uploads to be fewer so they can review them more carefully.

I guess I could upload a few at a time, if I had the luxury of being retired or not having other issues to deal with daily. I put 'em all up when they come in because I don't know when I'll get time again.

So thats my situation. Now I'm going to go and take pictures/snapshots/photographs. With a rangefinder. Not a view finder, not a digital camera, not a point and shoot.

It's a great day and I'm going to go get some of it. Have a good one RFF'ers

Jan

 

[Roger Hicks]

Fair do's, Gene, it wasn't meant to be a put-down. But seriously, ask yourself: what does the camera/lens/film information REALLY do except fire a desire to buy more kit/change film? Surely better to ask yourself, "If I like this picture, how could I duplicate it (or better still improve on it) with the kit I actually own?"

And to be honest, I often don't know/remember/care what I used for a particular pic: I go onn probability (over half the 1000+ pics I shoot every year are an MP and a 35mm lens). The pic is the thing. I take it with what's available. If I'm near home, that's an unbelievable amount of kit. Away from home, it's what I have with me.

Cheers,

Roger

 

[back alley]

i'm afraid i am also leaning in the direction of imposing a limit.

i don't know about servers and file sizes but the posting of snapshots, using the gallery to host a family style photo album and by many who don't contribute to the forums, is starting to/continuing to annoy and aggravate quite a few here.

joe

 

[Roger Hicks]

Dear Joe,

Do I detect I tiny bit of irony here:

you of all people here, with such a burning desire to educate us in all things, surprise me, that you would hold this info back from us.

Point taken -- after all, benighted colonials need all the help they can get, meme les canadiens -- but seriously, sn't there MORE education in realizing what information is vakuable and what isn't?

Incidentally I have just discovered that the Acadiens (Cajuns, pour ceux canadiens qui ne parlent pas francais) came disproportionsately from hereabouts in the northern Aquitaine.

Amities,

Roger

 

[dkapp]

OF COURSE I have to argue about everything. It's what I get paid for... (not here, alas... but take a look at the back page of Amateur Photographer magazine in the UK)

I don't get that magazine here. If I did, your attitude in this forum would prevent me from buying it. I've been reading this forum for a few months now, and I'm not impressed.

Sorry, don't want to appear combative, but that's how it is.

I think you do.

 

[peter_n]

Roger Joe is a Yank... 🙂

Thanks for listening Jorge!! 😀

 

[Roger Hicks]

Well, dkapp, whose problem is this? Yours, or mine?

Cheers,

Roger

 

[doubs43]

Just my 2 cents worth but I like knowing what lens/film combination took a particular picture.

I tend to like pastel colors and if a film has knock-yer-eye-out brilliant colors, highly saturated and contrasty, I don't want to use that film. Knowing what was used by others helps me avoid film I won't like. The same rationale goes for B&W film; i.e., does a particular lens/film/developer give a pleasing result or is it too grainy, flat etc.?

A great deal of emphasis has been placed on "bokeh" in recent years. It's helpful knowing which lens was used when the bokeh is appealing to me and which lens renders horrible out of focus images.

Other than that, I suppose such information is pretty meaningless.

Walker