bmattock
Veteran
I have one roll of Kodak Tri-X 400 in 120 roll film, which I shot at EI 400 (in a G690, so well on topic for RFF). It is in the tank as I write this.
However, I do not yet know which soup to use.
I have a nice fresh bottle of Ethol T.E.C., but I can find no dev data for it for Tri-X rated at 400 (yes, I checked the Massive Dev Chart).
I have a half-bottle of Rodinal.
I have a very old half-gallon of D-76 stock, and a fresh packet to make a new gallon if desired.
I have a half-bottle of HC-110.
The photos taken were of barns in the country in winter - fairly high-contrast stuff. Mostly taken at 1/125 and f/8, no filters.
Within the hour, I am going to use one of the developers listed above.
However, I solicit your opinions.
However, I do not yet know which soup to use.
I have a nice fresh bottle of Ethol T.E.C., but I can find no dev data for it for Tri-X rated at 400 (yes, I checked the Massive Dev Chart).
I have a half-bottle of Rodinal.
I have a very old half-gallon of D-76 stock, and a fresh packet to make a new gallon if desired.
I have a half-bottle of HC-110.
The photos taken were of barns in the country in winter - fairly high-contrast stuff. Mostly taken at 1/125 and f/8, no filters.
Within the hour, I am going to use one of the developers listed above.
However, I solicit your opinions.
moonwire
Member
first choice - whip up a new batch of D76. do yourself a favour and chuck the old.
second choice - rodinal
second choice - rodinal
sauerwald
Member
For one roll, I would use fresh D-76, 1:1.
hard to go wrong with that.
hard to go wrong with that.
jan normandale
Film is the other way
HC 110 dilution B, and digital truth charts
cosmonot
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Rodinal, if you have it (and you do!).
Seriously, for one roll mixing the required amount from the rodinal is just sooo easy.
Seriously, for one roll mixing the required amount from the rodinal is just sooo easy.
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MikeCassidy
Leica M3
D-76 is a good developer for Med film.
Rodinal is to be high contrast developer; D-76 is medium contrast developer. Since you shot high contrast scenes using D-76 would pull the contrast down and make t easier to print.
Rodinal is to be high contrast developer; D-76 is medium contrast developer. Since you shot high contrast scenes using D-76 would pull the contrast down and make t easier to print.
Trius
Waiting on Maitani
My first choice would be Rodinal, then D76 1:1.
Rodinal @ 1:100 would be very good for the high contrast range you indicate, Bill. It is only "high contrast" at lower dilutions or if over-agitated. I would give about 20 min, 20C, 30 sec agitation then 3 inversions every 3 minutes thereafter.
I haven't used D76 in a long time but picked some up today to develop some Neopan 1600 I have exposed. Alkis proved to me that Neopan 1600/D76 is a great combination.
Rodinal @ 1:100 would be very good for the high contrast range you indicate, Bill. It is only "high contrast" at lower dilutions or if over-agitated. I would give about 20 min, 20C, 30 sec agitation then 3 inversions every 3 minutes thereafter.
I haven't used D76 in a long time but picked some up today to develop some Neopan 1600 I have exposed. Alkis proved to me that Neopan 1600/D76 is a great combination.
bmattock
Veteran
MikeCassidy said:D-76 is a good developer for Med film.
Rodinal is to be high contrast developer; D-76 is medium contrast developer. Since you shot high contrast scenes using D-76 would pull the contrast down and make t easier to print.
Sorry, I should have mentioned - I live in a 9x12 room. No print - scan.
bmattock
Veteran
Trius said:My first choice would be Rodinal, then D76 1:1.
Rodinal @ 1:100 would be very good for the high contrast range you indicate, Bill. It is only "high contrast" at lower dilutions or if over-agitated. I would give about 20 min, 20C, 30 sec agitation then 3 inversions every 3 minutes thereafter.
I haven't used D76 in a long time but picked some up today to develop some Neopan 1600 I have exposed. Alkis proved to me that Neopan 1600/D76 is a great combination.
Well, I have taken the one bit of advice everyone has agreed on so far - I pitched the D-76 and made up a fresh batch. However, it is hot right now, since I mixed it at the recommended 122 degrees F. So if I use it, I have to wait for it to cool.
I was leaning towards the Rodinal at 1+100, but I got to thinking - this is a very, very, small amount of Rodinal - my tank only holds 450 ml. That's 4.5 ml of Rodinal, yes? I can measure that small of an amount, with my little medical children's medicine syringe, but is that too little?
Similarly, if I go with HC-110 - is that enough of the juice in that dilution for a 450 ml tank?
Bryce
Well-known
You got the right tool to measure it (the rodinal) with even. Provided you're not going to use the syringe on the little one's medicine again!
Yes, it should work for the HC110 also...
Yes, it should work for the HC110 also...
eli griggs
Well-known
With what you gave as choices, I'd go with HC-110, dilution B, as others suggested. As far as enough HC-110 at dil.b, the bottle or the Kodak web site should tell you minimum volumes per film.
Eli
Eli
cmedin
Well-known
Ethol, for purely selfish reasons since I spotted it in the photo store the other day and got curious. (If it was me, I'd try 11 mins 1+15 at 21C)
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Bryce
Well-known
Quote: "Within the hour, I am going to use one of the developers listed above."
O.K., bmattock. It has been more than an hour, in fact the stuff should be about dry now. What did you do?
O.K., bmattock. It has been more than an hour, in fact the stuff should be about dry now. What did you do?
bmattock
Veteran
Bryce said:Quote: "Within the hour, I am going to use one of the developers listed above."
O.K., bmattock. It has been more than an hour, in fact the stuff should be about dry now. What did you do?
I chose to go with the Rodinal 1+100! It is in the soup now, with another 8 minutes to go. Then fix, rinse, and hang. I may not have any scanned results for you this evening - I am heading out for an event I'm photographing in a few hours...but we'll see. And I will return results as soon as possible.
And thank you all for your advice!
bmattock
Veteran
Good gravy! I just poured the Rodinol out, and it's bloody purple! I mean so bright even I can tell it's purple, and I'm color-blind!
I've used Rodinal a bit - never seen that before. Any thoughts???
I've used Rodinal a bit - never seen that before. Any thoughts???
cmedin
Well-known
It's the backing on Tri-X. Doing a presoak helps. I was horrified when it happened to me too!
MikeCassidy
Leica M3
bmattock said:Sorry, I should have mentioned - I live in a 9x12 room. No print - scan.
Even more of a reason to stay away from Rodinal, which I do use. If you had some Microdol X I'd say use that; it would bring the contrast down even more.
If you had several more rolls shot at the same time; I'd say experiment with your development time.
From what I've read here and my experience scanning admittedly just for 'contact proofs' scanners seem to have a hard time getting through dense highlights so maybe take some time off like 20% - somebody here could give more advice.
MikeCassidy
Leica M3
Rodinal almost always turns purple with Tri-X.
I love the color - its like magic.
I love the color - its like magic.
cmedin
Well-known
Mike: It turns other devs purple too, it's the (anti halation?) backing coming off.
edit: TriX in Diafine at box speed scans gloriously. It's virtually impossible to get too-dense highlights with Diafine and it makes for great scans.
edit: TriX in Diafine at box speed scans gloriously. It's virtually impossible to get too-dense highlights with Diafine and it makes for great scans.
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bmattock
Veteran
MikeCassidy said:Even more of a reason to stay away from Rodinal, which I do use. If you had some Microdol X I'd say use that; it would bring the contrast down even more.
If you had several more rolls shot at the same time; I'd say experiment with your development time.
From what I've read here and my experience scanning admittedly just for 'contact proofs' scanners seem to have a hard time getting through dense highlights so maybe take some time off like 20% - somebody here could give more advice.
Well, too late for this batch - I did go with the Rodinal 1+100 after all. I do have a bag of Microdol-X powder, but neglected to mix it up - I've never used it and then got discouraged when all I read about it online seemed rather negative (no pun intended). Low contrast, low accutance, and a speed loss into the bargain. So I admit I did not consider it.
We'll have to see what I end up with here. Should be out of the fixer shortly.
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