aureliaaurita
Well-known
I am probably way way behind the times, but I stumbled on this today and got very excited:
http://www.harrisoncameras.co.uk/productdetail.kmod?Productid=10312
someone link me to a thread or two?
http://www.harrisoncameras.co.uk/productdetail.kmod?Productid=10312
someone link me to a thread or two?
wjgorham
Member
Very pricey.
BearCatCow
Established
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83397
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82063
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82197
They're all under the point & shoot board and also tend to be under a lot of controversy hehe.
jlw
Rangefinder camera pedant
Pretty clever way for Ricoh to obtain a total lock-out of potential third-party lens developers... kind of the opposite of the Micro Four Thirds approach...
Thisisaline
Member
M4streetshooter
Tourist Thru Life
There's images and a review up.
Pm me and I'll send you a link.
Shooter
ps.... It looks promising but I wouldn't sell my Pen to get it.
Pm me and I'll send you a link.
Shooter
ps.... It looks promising but I wouldn't sell my Pen to get it.
wgerrard
Veteran
Yep, the news has been out for some time.
To less than universal applause.
But... I think building lens/sensor packages makes sense if two conditions eventually apply. One, sensor costs drop enough to cease being an important factor in camera price. Two, lens/sensor packages can be tweaked to deliver unique advantages.
If sensors follow the same cost path as personal computer CPU's (I suspect they will) the very best sensors will always be priced at a premium, but the cost:capabllity ratio will always favor the buyer.
To less than universal applause.But... I think building lens/sensor packages makes sense if two conditions eventually apply. One, sensor costs drop enough to cease being an important factor in camera price. Two, lens/sensor packages can be tweaked to deliver unique advantages.
If sensors follow the same cost path as personal computer CPU's (I suspect they will) the very best sensors will always be priced at a premium, but the cost:capabllity ratio will always favor the buyer.
charjohncarter
Veteran
Seems crazy, but you don't have to clean your sensor.
coelacanth
Ride, dive, shoot.
Well, sadly, my GRD had dust problem even though it's a non-zoom P&S, so we'll have to see about that...
250swb
Well-known
With this concept I think you have to ask yourself will they ever match a really good set of lenses to it, and if so will you be willing to dump that set of lenses each time a new innovation comes along in sensor technology?
A really fine f1.4 lens would be expensive no matter who makes it. Matched permanently to a sensor (the bit that essentially is out of date as soon as you buy it) will you be willing to take the devaluation hit? Its not like a Summilux that moves from camera to camera (sensor to sensor). Its like the equivalent of a Summilux attached today to the very latest sensor, but that in a year or two will be the equivalent of camera phone quality.
So I think the logical upshot is that no, there will not be anything to look forward to in a fine lens lineup because nobody will be willing to buy a fine lens with a sensor that has a limited lifespan. It will still make photo's to be sure, but lets face it, when the world moves on, most photographers eventually follow. This is a niche concept in camera design. It has some facsinating possibilities in industry, and for true amateurs who just want an easy life. But I think you can forget 'fine photography', or aspiring to anything even close to ultimate image quality.
Steve
A really fine f1.4 lens would be expensive no matter who makes it. Matched permanently to a sensor (the bit that essentially is out of date as soon as you buy it) will you be willing to take the devaluation hit? Its not like a Summilux that moves from camera to camera (sensor to sensor). Its like the equivalent of a Summilux attached today to the very latest sensor, but that in a year or two will be the equivalent of camera phone quality.
So I think the logical upshot is that no, there will not be anything to look forward to in a fine lens lineup because nobody will be willing to buy a fine lens with a sensor that has a limited lifespan. It will still make photo's to be sure, but lets face it, when the world moves on, most photographers eventually follow. This is a niche concept in camera design. It has some facsinating possibilities in industry, and for true amateurs who just want an easy life. But I think you can forget 'fine photography', or aspiring to anything even close to ultimate image quality.
Steve
I would imagine this Ricoh will allow for better IQ than a DSLR from 5 years ago that many pros used for work.
aureliaaurita
Well-known
mixed then
well I find it mightly interesting, even if it does look like a stickle brick and is three times the cost of a rather more handsome pen
well I find it mightly interesting, even if it does look like a stickle brick and is three times the cost of a rather more handsome pen