tmfabian
I met a man once...
Just got a letter from ASMP (well actually tons of letters the past few days about this) It's pretty bogus.
Tuolumne
Veteran
Does this have something to do with photography?
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bsdunek
Old Guy with a Corgi
Yes, it does!
http://www.nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2008/04/orphan01.html
It has to do with any copyrighted work - photography, writing, painting, music, any art. Your rights can be taken, and you won't be able to do anything about it. They did a similar thing with patents during the Clinton administration, when we went to UN patent standards. It now becomes harder to keep a patent.
Thanks for the update, tmfabian
http://www.nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2008/04/orphan01.html
It has to do with any copyrighted work - photography, writing, painting, music, any art. Your rights can be taken, and you won't be able to do anything about it. They did a similar thing with patents during the Clinton administration, when we went to UN patent standards. It now becomes harder to keep a patent.
Thanks for the update, tmfabian
pachuco
El ****
Wow, that sucks.... And congress wonders why they have such a stellar approval rating.
crawdiddy
qu'est-ce que c'est?
Everyone hates Congress.
Except for their own Senators and Congressmen, whom they reelect with great frequency.
S
Simon Larbalestier
Guest
This is very bad news for the future of our images residing in the public domain. It has everything to do with Photography.
Pablito
coco frío
VERY bad news. Watermarking will become absolutely essential if you put anything online....
(hi Simon!!)
(hi Simon!!)
40oz
...
Well, honestly, in the given information, it seems to me the big motivator is the ability to use images or other works without having to pay for them. In that sense, I am opposed.
However, if there is a fine movie in MGM's vault that the original customer has long since ceased as a business party, by all means run it on Turner Classic Movies and make a few bucks for preservation. I would think that those two cases could be accomodated.
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Simon Larbalestier
Guest
Anybody who is in the business of selling images in the public domain, what ever medium is used, should be concerned about this - unless of course you're happy to give your images away for free. For me it's the only way i make my living.
jbf
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Sent letters to all my representatives. Lets hope they do something about it.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
This is another part of the current 'crisis of capitalism'. Manufacturers/producers/artists, the people who make actual goods, whether it be a motor-car, film (Agfa!), a song, a book or a photograph, are ever less the ones who make the money. Instead, it's the people for whom money is the sole focus and 'product'.
At the risk of being accused (yet again) of 'America bashing', does this not amount to a unilateral abrogation of international copyright law? In other words, is not everyone, world wide, affected by an American law that takes away hard-won rights? Or am I misunderstanding something? I sincerely hope so.
Cheers,
Roger
At the risk of being accused (yet again) of 'America bashing', does this not amount to a unilateral abrogation of international copyright law? In other words, is not everyone, world wide, affected by an American law that takes away hard-won rights? Or am I misunderstanding something? I sincerely hope so.
Cheers,
Roger
charjohncarter
Veteran
My Representative's website won't work, maybe to many messages about the bailout. I'll try later.
dazedgonebye
Veteran
First, I'm certainly opposed to this bill and have made my calls...
Still, I'm trying to understand your point Roger. Are you saying that the provisions of this law run counter to some international copyright treaty that we've signed on to?
sepiareverb
genius and moron
I managed to get through to two of my three. I would expect they are all against this anyway- surprised Leahy is in on it.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
On my admittedly limited understanding, yes.
Copyright is governed by the Berne convention, which I don't think includes exceptions for those who are too lazy or crooked to find the copyright owner.
Of course the theory is that people will make their best efforts to trace the copyright owner, but I can't help wondering how hard they will try.
Cheers,
R.
pesphoto
Veteran
i dont understand why they would even consider passing someting like this???
Maybe Bush will veto it? or is it too late?
Maybe Bush will veto it? or is it too late?
JohnTF
Veteran
If you find "A tribute to Steve Goodman", you will see a photo I gave Steve years ago as the cover, and Steve and John Prine wanted me to do an album cover, but their manager was not so friendly.
Steve died at a young age, and the Tribute album is, AFAIK, to benefit his family, so I am not likely to ask for money, but a credit line would have been nice.
I did send an email to the producers of the album, and they ignored me, so what else is new, however, this bill will make it entirely easy and legal to do this kind of thing routinely, as I understand it.
Probably my ego bothering me, however, Steve was a great guy, and I had met his family, plus John Prine, Steve, Bonnie Raitt and I killed a bottle of Southern Comfort in Philadelphia while Steve was acting as MC, almost resulting in Steve falling off the stage, well maybe they did forget my name. ;-)
I think it is perhaps more common than uncommon, but it should not be law.
Copyright over the long haul has generally been a mystery, at least to me, but you have to ask why they are doing this if not to screw someone out of rights which are fragile enough right now.
There is a website using my work now, in which I created the prints delivered for expenses partly paid, and the web site came much later, and again, not even credit.
Reminds me of a friend remarking after an image of mine was stolen from an exhibit, "At least they liked it enough to steal it"
If anyone is in Mary Bono's district, her late husband whose seat she took over, was generally supportive of copyright, she is in California, and he had lots of Nikon RF, Leica, Contax, etc. cameras plus he was sympathetic to this cause, so I would think she would be an excellent representative to email.
Email on the way, regards, John
Steve died at a young age, and the Tribute album is, AFAIK, to benefit his family, so I am not likely to ask for money, but a credit line would have been nice.
I did send an email to the producers of the album, and they ignored me, so what else is new, however, this bill will make it entirely easy and legal to do this kind of thing routinely, as I understand it.
Probably my ego bothering me, however, Steve was a great guy, and I had met his family, plus John Prine, Steve, Bonnie Raitt and I killed a bottle of Southern Comfort in Philadelphia while Steve was acting as MC, almost resulting in Steve falling off the stage, well maybe they did forget my name. ;-)
I think it is perhaps more common than uncommon, but it should not be law.
Copyright over the long haul has generally been a mystery, at least to me, but you have to ask why they are doing this if not to screw someone out of rights which are fragile enough right now.
There is a website using my work now, in which I created the prints delivered for expenses partly paid, and the web site came much later, and again, not even credit.
Reminds me of a friend remarking after an image of mine was stolen from an exhibit, "At least they liked it enough to steal it"
If anyone is in Mary Bono's district, her late husband whose seat she took over, was generally supportive of copyright, she is in California, and he had lots of Nikon RF, Leica, Contax, etc. cameras plus he was sympathetic to this cause, so I would think she would be an excellent representative to email.
Email on the way, regards, John
tmfabian
I met a man once...
the worst part about this whole thing is that not a single senator opposed it in voting
That's it...i'm doing wedding from now on...seems like that's one area that's relatively unaffected by this.
That's it...i'm doing wedding from now on...seems like that's one area that's relatively unaffected by this.
sepiareverb
genius and moron
Not hardly. How many times have you seen a credit for a wedding picture?
tmfabian
I met a man once...
how often are people going online to download other peoples wedding pictures as their own?
That was what I was thinking anyway...I'm not always in my right mind either though...so...I wouldn't rule out the possibility of me being an idiot on that statement.
