berci
Photographer Level: ****
Hey fellow Addicts,
I have an old roll of undeveloped ORWO Color NC21 film, and I would like to have it developed, or develop it myself?
Does anyone know a place in the UK where it can be done or the recipe of the developer?
Berci
I have an old roll of undeveloped ORWO Color NC21 film, and I would like to have it developed, or develop it myself?
Does anyone know a place in the UK where it can be done or the recipe of the developer?
Berci
ZorkiKat
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berci said:
Hi Berci
Does it say if ORWOcolor NC21 is C41? If its an ORWO colourfilm made long after the wall fell, it probably is processable in C41. But older ORWO NC are not.
First note that the real ORWOcolor NC used an entirely different chemical make up which have almost nothing in common with the C41 polyglots that everyone in outside the former eastern bloc have been familiar with for the last 30 or so years. It had more in common with the original Agfacolor (ORWO =Original Wolfen = was were Agfacolor was made before and during, and after WWII until it became ORWOcolor in the 1960s).
As such, the Agfa/ORWO colour coupler structure relied on 'anchor chain' rather than the 'oily globules' used by Kodak and their followers. If you soup ORWOcolor in C 41, you'd probably get two things: a totally blank roll where the emulsion has peeled or else nothing since nothing developed right. C41 processes at around
38 deg C, whilst ORWOcolor processes ran at 20 deg C.
You could probably develop ORWOcolor in the older Agfacolor process (such as those used for Agfacolor CN17 of the 1960s) if you could find it or brew it.
I have an old ORWO Formulae book (from ORWO, had it since 1986) which details the processing instructions ("ORWO 5166/5166K") for ORWOcolor NC19. The procedure is very similar to an old Agfacolor negative process (from the 1970s) down to the steps, timing, and even temperatures. Recipes are also provided for the chemistries, but it is doubtful if the ingredients could be easily bought.
If the film hasn't been exposed yet or contains nothing of relevance, I would suggest that you retain it as it is, as a relic of an extinct specie of colour film.
Jay
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berci
Photographer Level: ****
Hey Jay,
It's an NC21 and I would very much like to develop it, I have found it in the old family photo box and it's probably full of pictures of the family.
Do you have the NC21 developing process in your book?
Berci
It's an NC21 and I would very much like to develop it, I have found it in the old family photo box and it's probably full of pictures of the family.
Do you have the NC21 developing process in your book?
Berci
Mark Wood
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Mark Wood
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PS. They actually list Orwo NC21 amongst the films that they can process. (Despite the company name, they don't just process C22 films.) I've never used them but the'yve been mentioned many times in Amateur Photographer.
berci
Photographer Level: ****
Yes, I am sending the roll to them tomorrow. #:-]
ZorkiKat
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berci said:
Hi Berci
If it was like the other ORWOcolor negatives, then it should process in the same brews used for NC 19. NC 21 must be the faster version, "21" denoting the DIN speed equivalent to ISO100. NC 19 was ISO 64.
Jay