haempe
Well-known
I shot in the last time some meters of this cine-film.
From the first impressions N74 seems a resonable priced alternative in ISO400/27.
I would love to hear others experience, esp. developers, times etc.
Until now, I tried only Rodinal, Xtol and Diafine.
From the first impressions N74 seems a resonable priced alternative in ISO400/27.
I would love to hear others experience, esp. developers, times etc.
Until now, I tried only Rodinal, Xtol and Diafine.
stonydeluxe
Established
Where do you buy it? I love experimenting with new films 
haempe
Well-known
Schlapp
Well-known
MPerson
Established
I have been shooting with both the ORWO MP films for a couple of years now. I really like it.
Schlapp
Well-known
Tom A
RFF Sponsor
There is a site on Flickr "New ORWO black and white films" with some examples of it in various developers.
The ORWO 74 looks a lot like the Kodak XX and seem to respond well to standard MQ developers (D76/D96/Adox MQ). I have shoot some rolls with both the 54 UN (100 iso) and the 74 (@ 320-400).
At the moment I am trying to get the UN54 to behave like the now defunct Kodak 5231 (+X movie stock). So far it is good, but lack the brilliance that was the trademark of the +X. I have a couple of more rolls to shoot and run. Probably one more run in Beutler and I will try a Rodinal stand develoment 1:100 for 6070 minutes too later.
The ORWO 74 looks a lot like the Kodak XX and seem to respond well to standard MQ developers (D76/D96/Adox MQ). I have shoot some rolls with both the 54 UN (100 iso) and the 74 (@ 320-400).
At the moment I am trying to get the UN54 to behave like the now defunct Kodak 5231 (+X movie stock). So far it is good, but lack the brilliance that was the trademark of the +X. I have a couple of more rolls to shoot and run. Probably one more run in Beutler and I will try a Rodinal stand develoment 1:100 for 6070 minutes too later.
haempe
Well-known
Thanks, Tom.There is a site on Flickr "New ORWO black and white films" with some examples of it in various developers.
The ORWO 74 looks a lot like the Kodak XX and seem to respond well to standard MQ developers (D76/D96/Adox MQ). I have shoot some rolls with both the 54 UN (100 iso) and the 74 (@ 320-400).
At the moment I am trying to get the UN54 to behave like the now defunct Kodak 5231 (+X movie stock). So far it is good, but lack the brilliance that was the trademark of the +X. I have a couple of more rolls to shoot and run. Probably one more run in Beutler and I will try a Rodinal stand develoment 1:100 for 6070 minutes too later.
I already follow your tryout on Flickr.
I also found N74+ in D76 ist most charming, but lacks a little in sharpness. Hope to avoid this with AdoxMQ, I will see...
Artingei
Established
Maybe it's interesting for some folks around here… If someone wants to buy ORWO film in europe, just drop them a mail (filmotec@filmotec.de).
They sent me a price list back (08/2018, net prices):
ORWO UN 54 100 ASA / 21°/ K-Code Acetat 16 mm 122 m / Kern € 116,88
ORWO UN 54 100 ASA / 21°/ K-Code Acetat 16 mm 30,5m / Kern € 32,14
ORWO UN 54 100 ASA / 21°/ K-Code Acetat 16 mm 30,5m / Spule € 37,40
ORWO UN 54 100 ASA / 21°/ K-Code Acetat 35 mm 305m / Kern € 362,89
ORWO UN 54 100 ASA / 21°/ K-Code Acetat 35 mm 122m / Kern € 145,16
ORWO UN 54 100 ASA / 21°/ K-Code Acetat 35 mm 30,5m / Kern € 39,91
ORWO N 74plus 400 ASA / 27°/ K-Code Acetat 16 mm 122 m / Kern € 154,58
ORWO N 74plus 400 ASA / 27°/ K-Code Acetat 16 mm 30,5m / Kern € 42,51
ORWO N 74plus 400 ASA / 27°/ K-Code Acetat 16 mm 30,5m / Spule € 47,78
ORWO N 74plus 400 ASA / 27°/ K-Code Acetat 35 mm 305m / Kern € 532,56
ORWO N 74plus 400 ASA / 27°/ K-Code Acetat 35 mm 122m / Kern € 213,02
ORWO N 74plus 400 ASA / 27°/ K-Code Acetat 35 mm 30,5m / Kern € 58,58
I ordered both, looking forward to shoot the film my father shot 30 years ago during cold war in the NVA where he had to spend 3 years before he was allowed to go to university right when the wall went down.
Here is also an interesting (unscientific) comparison between ORWO N74+ and Tri-X: http://www.lusznat.de/cms1/index.php/downloads/finish/7/125
They sent me a price list back (08/2018, net prices):
ORWO UN 54 100 ASA / 21°/ K-Code Acetat 16 mm 122 m / Kern € 116,88
ORWO UN 54 100 ASA / 21°/ K-Code Acetat 16 mm 30,5m / Kern € 32,14
ORWO UN 54 100 ASA / 21°/ K-Code Acetat 16 mm 30,5m / Spule € 37,40
ORWO UN 54 100 ASA / 21°/ K-Code Acetat 35 mm 305m / Kern € 362,89
ORWO UN 54 100 ASA / 21°/ K-Code Acetat 35 mm 122m / Kern € 145,16
ORWO UN 54 100 ASA / 21°/ K-Code Acetat 35 mm 30,5m / Kern € 39,91
ORWO N 74plus 400 ASA / 27°/ K-Code Acetat 16 mm 122 m / Kern € 154,58
ORWO N 74plus 400 ASA / 27°/ K-Code Acetat 16 mm 30,5m / Kern € 42,51
ORWO N 74plus 400 ASA / 27°/ K-Code Acetat 16 mm 30,5m / Spule € 47,78
ORWO N 74plus 400 ASA / 27°/ K-Code Acetat 35 mm 305m / Kern € 532,56
ORWO N 74plus 400 ASA / 27°/ K-Code Acetat 35 mm 122m / Kern € 213,02
ORWO N 74plus 400 ASA / 27°/ K-Code Acetat 35 mm 30,5m / Kern € 58,58
I ordered both, looking forward to shoot the film my father shot 30 years ago during cold war in the NVA where he had to spend 3 years before he was allowed to go to university right when the wall went down.
Here is also an interesting (unscientific) comparison between ORWO N74+ and Tri-X: http://www.lusznat.de/cms1/index.php/downloads/finish/7/125
sepiareverb
genius and moron
The N74 comes across as *gasp* sharper in those scans.
Big ORWO user here, both N74 and UN54, tho much more UN54.
Big ORWO user here, both N74 and UN54, tho much more UN54.
Artingei
Established
First film.
Canon L1
Jupiter-12 (1953)
Orwo Filmotec NP74+
HC-110 (B)
I really like this film! I will push it to 800 and 1600 this weekend.
Canon L1
Jupiter-12 (1953)
Orwo Filmotec NP74+
HC-110 (B)









I really like this film! I will push it to 800 and 1600 this weekend.
dourbalistar
Buy more film
First film.
Canon L1
Jupiter-12 (1953)
Orwo Filmotec NP74+
HC-110 (B)
I really like this film! I will push it to 800 and 1600 this weekend.
Very nice! This might be the next film I roll from bulk. What developing time did you use with HC-110? Massive Dev has 6.5 minutes for Dilution B as a starting time, just curious if you used something different.
Artingei
Established
Thanks! I souped it for 7 minutes, initial agitation for 20 seconds, 10 seconds once a minute later on.
dourbalistar
Buy more film
Thanks! I souped it for 7 minutes, initial agitation for 20 seconds, 10 seconds once a minute later on.
Thanks for sharing! Maybe I'll split the difference with my first roll, and adjust from there. I have the tail end of some HP5+ in my bulk loader right now, but once that's done, in goes the ORWO N74+. I'll share the results here as soon as I have them.
Artingei
Established
Most of it was shot @1600 in HC-110 (B) for 9min 15secs at 22.4 celcius (a little bit underdeveloped) with M6 and Biogon-C. Second pic was shot at @800 with Zorki 4k and Jupiter-8 (mod). To increase speed I will also develop this film with XTOL, should work great, for a first try this seems ok! I really like the film at box speed, HP5 and Tri-X retain more shadow detail. Grain behaves kind of interesting, the mid (there's not much of it, I know)- and highlight grain looks great pushed IMO.












Nokton48
Veteran
Artingei
Established
ORWO N74+
Leica II + Jupiter-12
HC-110 (B) + 1ml Rodinal
6 Minutes @ 22.3 celcius
Leica II + Jupiter-12
HC-110 (B) + 1ml Rodinal
6 Minutes @ 22.3 celcius




studiocarter
Member
I use a Bolex H16RX4 with black and white movie film. UN54 is at hand, no 74 but may buy some. How is it pushed to 1600 or 3200 Asa? I got good 1600 with double X.
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