ORWO N74 anyone?

haempe

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I shot in the last time some meters of this cine-film.
From the first impressions N74 seems a resonable priced alternative in ISO400/27.
I would love to hear others experience, esp. developers, times etc.
Until now, I tried only Rodinal, Xtol and Diafine.
 
There is a site on Flickr "New ORWO black and white films" with some examples of it in various developers.
The ORWO 74 looks a lot like the Kodak XX and seem to respond well to standard MQ developers (D76/D96/Adox MQ). I have shoot some rolls with both the 54 UN (100 iso) and the 74 (@ 320-400).

At the moment I am trying to get the UN54 to behave like the now defunct Kodak 5231 (+X movie stock). So far it is good, but lack the brilliance that was the trademark of the +X. I have a couple of more rolls to shoot and run. Probably one more run in Beutler and I will try a Rodinal stand develoment 1:100 for 6070 minutes too later.
 
There is a site on Flickr "New ORWO black and white films" with some examples of it in various developers.
The ORWO 74 looks a lot like the Kodak XX and seem to respond well to standard MQ developers (D76/D96/Adox MQ). I have shoot some rolls with both the 54 UN (100 iso) and the 74 (@ 320-400).

At the moment I am trying to get the UN54 to behave like the now defunct Kodak 5231 (+X movie stock). So far it is good, but lack the brilliance that was the trademark of the +X. I have a couple of more rolls to shoot and run. Probably one more run in Beutler and I will try a Rodinal stand develoment 1:100 for 6070 minutes too later.
Thanks, Tom.
I already follow your tryout on Flickr.

I also found N74+ in D76 ist most charming, but lacks a little in sharpness. Hope to avoid this with AdoxMQ, I will see...
 
Maybe it's interesting for some folks around here… If someone wants to buy ORWO film in europe, just drop them a mail (filmotec@filmotec.de).

They sent me a price list back (08/2018, net prices):

ORWO UN 54 100 ASA / 21°/ K-Code Acetat 16 mm 122 m / Kern € 116,88
ORWO UN 54 100 ASA / 21°/ K-Code Acetat 16 mm 30,5m / Kern € 32,14
ORWO UN 54 100 ASA / 21°/ K-Code Acetat 16 mm 30,5m / Spule € 37,40
ORWO UN 54 100 ASA / 21°/ K-Code Acetat 35 mm 305m / Kern € 362,89
ORWO UN 54 100 ASA / 21°/ K-Code Acetat 35 mm 122m / Kern € 145,16
ORWO UN 54 100 ASA / 21°/ K-Code Acetat 35 mm 30,5m / Kern € 39,91

ORWO N 74plus 400 ASA / 27°/ K-Code Acetat 16 mm 122 m / Kern € 154,58
ORWO N 74plus 400 ASA / 27°/ K-Code Acetat 16 mm 30,5m / Kern € 42,51
ORWO N 74plus 400 ASA / 27°/ K-Code Acetat 16 mm 30,5m / Spule € 47,78
ORWO N 74plus 400 ASA / 27°/ K-Code Acetat 35 mm 305m / Kern € 532,56
ORWO N 74plus 400 ASA / 27°/ K-Code Acetat 35 mm 122m / Kern € 213,02
ORWO N 74plus 400 ASA / 27°/ K-Code Acetat 35 mm 30,5m / Kern € 58,58

I ordered both, looking forward to shoot the film my father shot 30 years ago during cold war in the NVA where he had to spend 3 years before he was allowed to go to university right when the wall went down.

Here is also an interesting (unscientific) comparison between ORWO N74+ and Tri-X: http://www.lusznat.de/cms1/index.php/downloads/finish/7/125
 
First film.

Canon L1
Jupiter-12 (1953)
Orwo Filmotec NP74+
HC-110 (B)

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I really like this film! I will push it to 800 and 1600 this weekend.
 
First film.

Canon L1
Jupiter-12 (1953)
Orwo Filmotec NP74+
HC-110 (B)

I really like this film! I will push it to 800 and 1600 this weekend.

Very nice! This might be the next film I roll from bulk. What developing time did you use with HC-110? Massive Dev has 6.5 minutes for Dilution B as a starting time, just curious if you used something different.
 
Thanks! I souped it for 7 minutes, initial agitation for 20 seconds, 10 seconds once a minute later on.

Thanks for sharing! Maybe I'll split the difference with my first roll, and adjust from there. I have the tail end of some HP5+ in my bulk loader right now, but once that's done, in goes the ORWO N74+. I'll share the results here as soon as I have them.
 
Most of it was shot @1600 in HC-110 (B) for 9min 15secs at 22.4 celcius (a little bit underdeveloped) with M6 and Biogon-C. Second pic was shot at @800 with Zorki 4k and Jupiter-8 (mod). To increase speed I will also develop this film with XTOL, should work great, for a first try this seems ok! I really like the film at box speed, HP5 and Tri-X retain more shadow detail. Grain behaves kind of interesting, the mid (there's not much of it, I know)- and highlight grain looks great pushed IMO.

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I use a Bolex H16RX4 with black and white movie film. UN54 is at hand, no 74 but may buy some. How is it pushed to 1600 or 3200 Asa? I got good 1600 with double X.
 
Nice photos Jonas.

It might be time I revisited N74 (and UN54). I hated both when I first tried them; I was a fan of the "original" Orwo equivalents NP55 and NP7.
 
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