valdas
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Oh, now I am pretty sure my poor results are due to the lack of this precision 🙂
ORWO N75 - new update to N74+
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Mats
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How do you order from Filmotec? I looked at the site and there is no obvious way, do you just email Hr Frank Böhme?
Maybe the 8' 7" is just recalculated D76 times (or D96) with some kind of formula? I noticed it too, I wonder what made them publish that.
Maybe the 8' 7" is just recalculated D76 times (or D96) with some kind of formula? I noticed it too, I wonder what made them publish that.
valdas
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Just email them to the general mail address. That’s what I did. They will send you the price list and invoice once you confirm what you want. The payment is to their bank account. It’s fast and free of charge in SEPA area.
Mugn
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What are the prices on the films?
valdas
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valdas
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some more tests, this time shot with MF camera GA645, in artificial light (xtol stock, 8min 30 sec):
dourbalistar
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Wow, thanks for posting that sample, Valdas! The grain looks very clean on that, dare I say minimal. Personally, I found N74+ to be quite a grainy for an ISO 400 film. Also interesting that there are no edge markings.
valdas
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I can tell you one thing regarding the grain - it’s because of a scanner. This one is scanned with the Epson V700 and for some reason (because of lower resolution?) flatbed scanner gives less pronounced grain compared to my dedicated Coolscan. Edge markings - it’s there, but not visible on every frame because edges are also exposed and markings “disappear”.
dourbalistar
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Ah, yes, that makes sense. When I used to scan with a flatbed (CanoScan 8800F), I did find the grain to be less apparent, probably because it "mushed out" with the lower resolution. Now I "scan" using an APS-C digicam, and the grain seems more apparent because it much resolves more clearly compared to a flatbed.
Compared to N74+, do you find the grain to be finer with N75?
valdas
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Well, I did not have a chance to shoot on N74+ so I can’t really compare.
valdas
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Some more tests with ORWO N75: xtol stock 8.30, Yashica 24mm lens. This is small size file, but even scanned with Nikon Coolscan grain looks very reasonable:
Freakscene
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It looks good. Is this the new ‘made in the USA’ Xtol or the old ‘made in Germany’ product?
Marty
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valdas
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It seems to me that the grain of this new ORWO is really reasonable - if exposure, developer, temperature, agitation are right, it can give quite OK grain. And I did not try any fine grain developers yet...
Rollei 35 S, xtol stock 8:30@ 20C
Rollei 35 S, xtol stock 8:30@ 20C
dourbalistar
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Looks great, Valdas!
On a side note, are you noticing problems with scratches on your negatives? I think I see one running vertically along the right third of the frame, starting above the handkerchief. I ask because I had scratches on a lot of my N74+ negatives, except mine showed up as black on my scans. It's not camera related, because I used multiple cameras. I suspected my bulk loader, but I haven't seen scratches in subsequent bulk rolls put through the same loader (and same reusable film cassettes). 🙁
valdas
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Scratches - I surely see them 🙂 I did not do the proper postprocessing on this frame. But. At this stage I would not blame the film. It was new to me Rollei 35S (first roll), so it could be camera. Bulk loader is another possible issue and then reusable cassettes). I would need to inspect all this, but I doubt the film itself is at fault.
Konstantin V.
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Hi, today I've requested a data sheet for the new N75. ORWO was so kind to send it to me, but they have yet to upload it themselves. SO I put it online here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1Mh3B-dAA04dnlZVjFFV2l0dUJkd3RybU84R2hpNDRBQTBn/
While to my eye ISO change means nothing, the other changes are significant:
* different spectral curve
* base fog is higher
* latitude is lower
* same two layers, means the same grain
What I don't like about bergger pancro 400 (n74+) is darker green (grass and trees), rough grain and also low pushability. Not sure about greens now.
While to my eye ISO change means nothing, the other changes are significant:
* different spectral curve
* base fog is higher
* latitude is lower
* same two layers, means the same grain
What I don't like about bergger pancro 400 (n74+) is darker green (grass and trees), rough grain and also low pushability. Not sure about greens now.
HHPhoto
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Thanks for the update!
Just one important additional information: Bergger Pancro 400 is not Filmotec/ORWO N74+.
The former Bergger BRF 400 film was repackaged N74+.
But the current Bergger Pancro 400 is produced by German film manufacturer Inoviscoat for Bergger (Bergger is just a distribution company with no own production facilities at all).
Cheers, Jan
CharlesDAMorgan
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I thought there was no connection. I much prefer Orwo N74 nowadays, but I've happily pushed Pancro 400 to 3200 without any real drama.
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