Konstantin V.
Newbie
I've happily pushed Pancro 400 to 3200 without any real drama.
I can hardly believe that. Probably mistake in exposure and the main subject is all light.
Konstantin V.
Newbie
Thanks for the update!
Just one important additional information: Bergger Pancro 400 is not Filmotec/ORWO N74+.
The former Bergger BRF 400 film was repackaged N74+.
But the current Bergger Pancro 400 is produced by German film manufacturer Inoviscoat for Bergger (Bergger is just a distribution company with no own production facilities at all).
Cheers, Jan
Thanks. I honestly have no trusted information about that. Both orwo's and bergger's films have two layers. Also Bergger is an official distributor for ORWO. Have to check N75 just to be sure, but there is no grass this time of year.
HHPhoto
Well-known
Thanks. I honestly have no trusted information about that. Both orwo's and bergger's films have two layers. Also Bergger is an official distributor for ORWO. Have to check N75 just to be sure, but there is no grass this time of year.![]()
If you compare N75 to Pancro 400 side-by-side under identical shooting conditions, and if you test their density curves you will see that these are different films.
Pancro 400 has also "Made in Germany" on the box because it is produced by Inoviscoat in Germany. Their busines is production for distribution/branding companies with no own production.
Cheers, Jan
Konstantin V.
Newbie
Fine) This moved me to order some for testing.
valdas
Veteran
Olympus XA, Orwo N75, xtol stock, 8.30

dourbalistar
Buy more film
Olympus XA, Orwo N75, xtol stock, 8.30
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Wow, looks great, Valdas! Was this shot at 320 "box speed", or did you use some exposure compensation? Either way, it seems the new N75 holds highlights very well, just like it's predecessor.
p.s. Not sure where you're located, but I hope you didn't run into any of the new film destroying CT scanners at the airport.
valdas
Veteran
Wow, looks great, Valdas! Was this shot at 320 "box speed", or did you use some exposure compensation? Either way, it seems the new N75 holds highlights very well, just like it's predecessor.
p.s. Not sure where you're located, but I hope you didn't run into any of the new film destroying CT scanners at the airport.
Box speed. That was my regular commuting Vilnius - Helsinki. Both airports have old machines, no CT yet. Helsinki airport is pretty deserted those days as Finnair cancelled all China bound flights (Helsinki is a major European hub for Asia connections).
Konstantin V.
Newbie
I got some on ebay for testing and it was awful. Now idea why, maybe wrong film inside, but it was closer to chm 400. No contrast no matter how you push it, possible lack of silver content. Does anybody have a photo of the edge marking of the ORWO film?
p.s. : bought from Seller c0re_tek from Germany here:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ORWO-N75-Film-by-C0RE-ISO-400-35mm-b-w-negative-NEW-FRESH-135-NP27/332608244118?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
p.s. : bought from Seller c0re_tek from Germany here:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ORWO-N75-Film-by-C0RE-ISO-400-35mm-b-w-negative-NEW-FRESH-135-NP27/332608244118?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
valdas
Veteran
I got some on ebay for testing and it was awful. Now idea why, maybe wrong film inside, but it was closer to chm 400. No contrast no matter how you push it, possible lack of silver content. Does anybody have a photo of the edge marking of the ORWO film?
p.s. : bought from Seller c0re_tek from Germany here:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ORWO-N75-Film-by-C0RE-ISO-400-35mm-b-w-negative-NEW-FRESH-135-NP27/332608244118?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
I have edge markings, can upload on Monday... I remember it has “orwo”... what does yours show?
Doddle
Established
It's been a while since N75 came out and I haven't seen many images yet. Any new work out there? I'm thinking of getting a roll since I live in Germany.
relistan
Established
I have 100 ft of N75 and have put one roll through the M2 so far. Very nice film! The grain is quite noticeable, but the tonality is really nice. I think I might have slightly over-developed these. Here are some shots. These are at box speed (320) in Kodak XTOL stock for 8 mins 30 secs. Leica M2, Summarit-M 2.5/35mm.


relistan
Established
Thanks. I honestly have no trusted information about that. Both orwo's and bergger's films have two layers. Also Bergger is an official distributor for ORWO. Have to check N75 just to be sure, but there is no grass this time of year.![]()
Definitely not the same film. Bergger partnered with ORWO to design the emulsion for PANCRO 400 and Inoviscoat produces it. Aurelien le Duc has said numerous times that it's a new, unique emulsion, produced only for them, and not a previous or existing emulsion from another stock.
valdas
Veteran
M4, LLL 8 elemets Summicron replica, Orwo N75 in xtol:

HHPhoto
Well-known
Bergger partnered with ORWO to design the emulsion for PANCRO 400 and Inoviscoat produces it.
That is not true, as the company FilmoTec (which has the right to use ORWO as brand name for their films) has never been involved in that project. This film was designed by InovisCoat alone, and InovisCoat is also making the emulsion and coating it. Harman technology is making the finishing for Bergger. Bergger itself is just a distribution company, they don't have any own production capabilities.
Cheers, Jan
markjwyatt
Well-known
M4, LLL 8 elemets Summicron replica, Orwo N75 in xtol:
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This is really a beautiful shot.
valdas
Veteran
This is really a beautiful shot.
Thank you.
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