Orwo NP20 & NP15 6.5cmx9cm Cut Film

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Hey All,

This is what arrived today, in two different shipments from two dealers in Bulgaria. Outdated Orwo NP20 & NP15 6.5cmx9cm cut film. This film size is very hard to find in the USA. 225 sheets of the NP20 & 25 sheets of the NP15.

The dealer with the NP20 suggested Ilford Microphen, and an extra stop or two. What do you Guys think? What works well with these films?

The dealer said the NP20 looked rather good in Microphen. The NP15 is only 25 ASA so it should be fine....


2016-02-03 18.05.03 by Nokton48, on Flickr
 
I think you can buy N.O.S. at this format at Banse & Grohmann in Germany. Former OrWo part cutting film and photo papers.
 
Thanks for the info Fotohuis.

So I google Banse & Grohman and it comes up Wephoto.de
According to the website Wephoto was created in 1997.
I have some Orwo 9x12cm NP22 (ASA 100), with Wephoto sticker pasted over the Orwo name on the film box.
I will inquire to see if they have Orwo NP22 in 6.5cmx9cm

I'm ordering some Microphen to try the NP20 (very old but the seller says it works and recommended Microphen!). Also some Acufine Replenisher, I have a gallon of Acufine Stock to mix up. Might also try HC110 as it reduces fog you get with expired films.

http://wephota.de/

2016-02-07 11.26.13 by Nokton48, on Flickr
 
As I said, in the GDR era they were a film and paper manufacturer with long tradition that mostly made (by GDR standards) high quality paper for export to West Germany, branded Tura (or sold under resellers brands). Besides that, they eventually grew into the plant where Orwo concentrated all sheet film and glass plate cutting - and probably sheet film storage and distribution as well, which would explain why they eventually ended with the remaining stock of Orwo sheet film boxes. When Orwo was split, they were bought out and renamed Banse+Grohmann, and shifted focus to oversize public display prints, but they still seem to offer cutting services, and still cater to the small but well paying scientific crowd that needs glass plates...
 
In Sovjet time the best materials were coming from OrWo. It was their premium brand, then Svema and Tasma. I have used in the 70's and 80's a lot of UT-18 (OrWo) slides. Kodachrome was too expensive for me. Also their NP15-NP22 was good and also their fiber photo papers. Later I switched to Agfa (Gevaert) Leverkusen materials.
 
Well in Europe most are familiar with Wephota / B&G. They also still have a good connection to Foma in the Czech Republic. In the past they also had very special metallic PE/RC papers from older OrWo stock. That was about 1997 when I started my Fotohuis.
 
Fotohuis said:
Well in Europe most are familiar with Wephota / B&G. They also still have a good connection to Foma in the Czech Republic. In the past they also had very special metallic PE/RC papers from older OrWo stock.
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Was that ever Orwo made? In the eighties, from when I remember their metallic and colourful RC papers, Tura had their own distribution in West Germany and were proud to have a quality production independent of Orwo (who at that time were putting all their effort into colour paper). For some time these speciality papers were also distributed by/as Tetenal in Western Germany.
 
Oh, there is no doubt they made papers for Orwo, after all, they were (forced into being) a Orwo subsidiary. Towards the late eighties they even grew into the last black and white paper factory within the Orwo conglomerate as Wolfen concentrated their efforts on getting into RA4. But they maintained their own "Tura" brand as a higher quality side line for West German export (with baryta and colour base papers never sold as Orwo). And I don't think they ever opened that line to papers coated in Wolfen or the papers they made to Wolfen specifications during GDR times - it was not until the mid nineties that Banse+Grohmann eventually were obliged to put small Turaphot (and later Wephota) stickers on the remaining Orwo boxes as the Orwo brand name was sold off to another owner.
 
Other films available in 6.5x9 cm

Other films available in 6.5x9 cm

JFYI, Orwo is not the only option. Fomapan 100 and Adox CHS100 II too are currently available as 6.5x9 cm sheet film!
 
joeswe said:
JFYI, Orwo is not the only option. Fomapan 100 and Adox CHS100 II too are currently available as 6.5x9 cm sheet film!
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Yes, Thank you! I have placed an order with Fotoimpex for both of these and they are currently on their way to me. With the outdated Orwo I am going to try Microphen (the seller suggested it and says it works very well with this particular film). Also I have a gallon of Acufine, and have now ordered Acufine replenisher, and I am thinking of trying that one too with the Orwo.
 
Twelve Plaubel Makina 6.5x9cm holders loaded with outdated Orwo NP20 (EI 80).
And another six Makina holders loaded with outdated Orwo NP15 (EI 25).
Ready to shoot in my Makiflex. :)

My Microphen & Acufine Replenisher from Freestyle should be here this afternoon.

2016-02-11 13.59.52 by Nokton48, on Flickr
 
Fotohuis said:
Well in Europe most are familiar with Wephota / B&G. They also still have a good connection to Foma in the Czech Republic. In the past they also had very special metallic PE/RC papers from older OrWo stock. That was about 1997 when I started my Fotohuis.
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Here is the response from B&G:



i’m happy over your interrest for the wephota cutfilm sizes 6,5 x 9cm. The sizes 6,5 x 9 are possible for panchromatic films 25 ASA / 100 ASA / 200 ASA / 400 ASA . Orthochromatic 25 ASA and a lithfilm with the name FO also possible. If I know your inquiry (quantity ) than I can make you a PROFORMA INVOICE. We also have other interesting films and papers to glass plates. I like to answer your questions.

Nice weekend
Dieter Grohmann
 
I have quite a bit of the FO in 9x12cm.
I have seen it is possible to process it in Rodinal with interesting results.
It was not expensive so I thought I would try some
 
I received this message:

I think you asked on one thread about suitable developers with outdated film.
If you're looking to try something, I would include Rodinal Special (Studional), as it keeps for ages, and can be purchased in 120ml sizes to try out. I think it has plenty of restrainer in it.

Anyone here try Agfa Studionol (Rodinal Special)?
 
The dealer in Bulgaria sold me another box (his last) of 6.5x9cm NP15 (ASA 25). Also he sourced for me five boxes of outdated 50 sheet Foma 100 6.5x9cm. The Foma has 2009 dating (I have an old partial box from J&C same dating) so it should be fine to use.

A lot of film, but I have many cameras and film holders. I will be all set for spring shooting. :)
 
Anyone here try Agfa Studionol (Rodinal Special)?
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Studional or Rodinal Special is a regular semi-compensating type Hydoquinone developer. There is nothing "Special" on it. Long times ago I have ever tried it. But my results were worse then Amaloco AM74 which was sold for half price then (in Holland), now Rollei is selling it under Rollei Supergrain. However they took out the high concentration of Hydroquinone. It has been re-developed by SPUR for Rollei-Maco.


Here an example of Rollei Supergrain with FP400 E.I. 250:

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6x7cm roll film format. Supergrain 1+9.

Another one in AM74 (Amaloco Photochemicals the Netherlands, they ceased production in 2008).

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FP400 35mm in Leica M7 + Summicron F/2,0-50mm. Temperature: -30C and I had to put my M7 on manual 1/60s because the Lithium batteries were dead. AM74 1+9. Krkonoše, Giant mountains, Czech Republic.
 
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