OT: Wedding Shot - Got It!

bmattock

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My friends:

Please forgive the off-topic post (as well as the others I've made of late). I was asked to shoot my first wedding, I accepted, and I needed help. I turned to my friends on RFF and you didn't let me down. I got great advice, I listened, and I think it may have all come down to one word - success!

I have in my trembling hands 9 rolls of Kodak 400NC film - most exposed through a Canon FTbN and Canon T60 SLR with a Canon 50mm f1.4 SSC or Vivitar Series 1 90mm f2.5 lens. Most shots were at f5.6, 1/60th and 1/4 power on a Vivitar 285HV flash bounced off the ceiling of the church (the pastor did not mind, we discussed it ahead of time).

My wife was my able assistant and sherpa - in fact, she was better than that, directing traffic and barking orders where necessary to get dazed and confused wedding participants in the right place at the right time for photos before and after the ceremony. I could not have done it without her.

We went to the church the night before the wedding, for the rehersal. It was there that we got the order of services (just hot off the press) and I went through my shot list, checking flash exposure and everyone's positions - it was very helpful. I brought a small stepladder with me for the services - I was on the altar in the choir area, behind the pianist and overlooking the bride and groom - but they are both taller than I am. So I was able to stand on the ladder and shoot down at them, which I think helped. I was still out of the way of the congregation, I think.

I was also worried, because I shot a few rolls of cheap Walmart Polaroid 200 film at the rehersal, and they scanned very badly - underexposed, the lot of 'em - and grainy, and just plain ugly. I was *so* worried that I had blown everything, since I didn't see the rehersal shots until this morning, AFTER the wedding was in the can. Argh! I didn't get nervous before or during the shoot, it was afterward when I was worried that I had blown the entire thing.

I also found out that shooting a wedding is HARD WORK! Man! We were there at 12:30 - ceremony started at 2:00. We left at 4:00. I was soaked in sweat - my eyes burned the whole time. Very hot up there on the altar, and I was moving around as well. Next time I bring a terrycloth towel or something.

Anyway, I have a power lot of work ahead of me this next week. Hope to get it all scanned and on a DVD-ROM before the end of the week, then the bride and bride's mom can pick out what they want and I'll get prints made and put them in the album, etc. But at the moment, I am called to begin cleaning the house like I promised my wife I would, so I must sign off for now.

Thank you ALL very much for your time and advice - you cannot know how important it all was to me!

Best Regards,

Bill Mattocks

PS - I blew the 'money shot'. The bride and groom are out of focus on the 'kiss' - I got the reverend's face in perfect focus in between them. Oh man.

PPS - And I shot the reception with my Bessa R and Canon Serenar 85mm f1.9 lens - just to keep my RFF credentials!
 
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Congrats from me, too.

> I also found out that shooting a wedding is HARD WORK!

So true! I only do it as a favor for VERY close friends or family, would never do that for business (it would take the fun out of making photos for me) - my brother is getting married on June 11th, so I'll have to do again...

Roman
 
Bill, I'm glad it all went well for you. If all of your shots are as well exposed as the one you posted, I think you'll have done just fine.

Let's hear an "Amen" for the hard work comment. They are, indeed and I hope your efforts are properly appreciated.

Now you're a veteran wedding photographer! 🙂

Walker
 
Filtres, some layers - masking and history brush etc. in photoshop will probably save your money shot - if you cant get the bride and groom sharp you can alway blur alt the others even more and call it a soft focus shot 🙂
 
mac_wt said:
Good to hear back from you on this, Bill. I'm happy you did OK. How did the portrait shoot go?

Wim

I think it will be ok as well. I just managed one scan last night - been neglecting house work for the past month and had to get it done. Here's a rush job on one of the frames that looked promising...

Best Regards,

Bill Mattocks
 
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Congrats, Bill! Weddings are scarey/exciting events to photograph, especially your first hundred or so. We're anxious to see the results too!
 
bmattock said:
My wife was my able assistant and sherpa - in fact, she was better than that, directing traffic and barking orders where necessary to get dazed and confused wedding participants in the right place at the right time for photos before and after the ceremony. I could not have done it without her.

Great to hear all worked out for you.

My father asked me once if I would ever consider starting a little photo business and the first thing that jumped in my mind was that I would need a savy and strong assistant to even make sucess a possibility. Great to hear that teamwork won the day.
 
rover said:
Great to hear all worked out for you.

My father asked me once if I would ever consider starting a little photo business and the first thing that jumped in my mind was that I would need a savy and strong assistant to even make sucess a possibility. Great to hear that teamwork won the day.

Ann-Marie was a trouper, and she was indispensible! I had people coming up to me while I was shooting and asking when I was going to take the 'grandparent shot' (I didn't have grandparents on my shot list, so I wasn't). Ann-Marie got in between us and moved them deftly off to the side, then slid them in for a couple of quick shots and moved them off again - happy.

She quickly assumed the role of 'director' without being asked. She had a copy of the shot list and the order of service, and she would point me to another location when it was time to move - then she managed the crowd and got people do line up for photos, etc. I would get them to line up - she would position them, notice a flower falling out of a buttonhole, one guy who didn't like standing too close to his fellow groomsmen, etc.

And she managed the bride and bridesmaids - she could barge into the dressing area and move them along like a choir director, and she could take her digital camera in and get a few candids (G-rated, of course) that the bride had requested.

As things turned out, the bride was recalcitrant and almost nasty at show time - she decided that she was not going outside for photos in her dress & train - it was 'too windy' - but she had requested those shots specifically! Frustrating. But Ann-Marie sorted her out quickly and repositioned her and her bridesmaids for lovely shots at the altar after the wedding and before the cake cutting.

I said it before - can't say it strongly enough - I could NOT have done this without my wonderful wife.

And I need her eyes, too. Y'all know I'm color-blind. She tells me that the shot I posted is a trifle 'red' and I need to balance the colors a bit. I'd have never known. Not a good thing for a photographer, eh?

So, yes, I think that for this kind of gig you NEED an able assistant.

Best Regards,

Bill Mattocks
 
Well done! I did my first wedding (the only one, so far) last year on my trusty OM4Ti with a 50mm F/1.8 and 135mm F/2.8 and I too was petrified. Thankfully, most of the shots came out. I was using Kodak Portra 160 hand printed at a local pro-lab (I think on to Ilford; can't remember)

There's definitely a good argument in favour of using a digital camera at weddings instead of film: the small LCD on most cameras may not be good enough to tell you if you've bagged that perfect shot, but it should be good enough to show you if you've blown it. I gave my customers the option of film or digital, and they opted for film, so there was no margin for error.

So how did I prepare? I prayed! 😀
 
Let me add to the congrats Bill and Ann-Marie! A tough job well done !!! When is the next one ? 🙂

I shot a couple weddings, informal way, as a guest, not photog. First was my cousin one, and I was just taking some snapshots with the Fed 2 😀, second one with my X370s and (mostly) the 135/2.8 Vivitar using HP5+ at 1600. Way too contrasty but some nice results nonetheless.
 
OlyMan said:
Well done! I did my first wedding (the only one, so far) last year on my trusty OM4Ti with a 50mm F/1.8 and 135mm F/2.8 and I too was petrified. Thankfully, most of the shots came out. I was using Kodak Portra 160 hand printed at a local pro-lab (I think on to Ilford; can't remember)

There's definitely a good argument in favour of using a digital camera at weddings instead of film: the small LCD on most cameras may not be good enough to tell you if you've bagged that perfect shot, but it should be good enough to show you if you've blown it. I gave my customers the option of film or digital, and they opted for film, so there was no margin for error.

So how did I prepare? I prayed! 😀

Ann-Marie thought of it at the last moment before we left the house - she had asked me the night before if she should be armed with a camera - I was pondering what one to give her - I don't have auto-anything, and she's not camera-literate (not a complaint, just a fact). I was going to give her a Oly XA2 with X11 flash and let her have at it, then she remembered her trusty Nikon Coolpix 995. A trifle small (3.34 megapixel) for 8x10 blowups, but no problem for 4x6 enlargements, and she uses it well. So she grabbed it and we were out the door.

As it turned out, I was thinking that if I had somehow managed to blow ALL the shots - she would at least have SOMETHING on hers - yes, digital is quite nice for that! Definitely fits the niche that Polaroid used to have for that purpose, anyway.

I don't have a 'real' digital SLR, or I would have considered that as an option as my main camera. Speed is of the essence, as I found out - it's like covering sports! It would have been nice to have had autofocus (fast autofocus anyway) and AE and instant review. I missed the garter-toss because I was changing film.

If I were going to do this for 'real' and all - I think I'd invest in a couple of good DSLRS.

Best Regards,

Bill Mattocks
 
taffer said:
Let me add to the congrats Bill and Ann-Marie! A tough job well done !!! When is the next one ? 🙂

I shot a couple weddings, informal way, as a guest, not photog. First was my cousin one, and I was just taking some snapshots with the Fed 2 😀, second one with my X370s and (mostly) the 135/2.8 Vivitar using HP5+ at 1600. Way too contrasty but some nice results nonetheless.

I considered a variety of 'modern' approaches, including the photo-journalist B&W thing - and it sounds like something I'd love to try. But for my very first wedding, I thought I'd better go the traditional route as much as I could.

I *did* take some photos of the reception in a kind of reportage stye, but I doubt they'll look all that tremendous. I used my Bessa R and a 90mm lens, we'll see how they come out when I get them scanned.

Best Regards,

Bill Mattocks
 
Congartulations Bill!

Yes. Weddings are very hard work. Can you imaging doing 40 plus of them a year to make a living?

Glad it worked out for you.

-Paul
 
Congratulations Bill!

The Happy Couple should be very pleased with the shot that you posted; very nice.
 
"As things turned out, the bride was recalcitrant and almost nasty at show time - she decided that she was not going outside for photos in her dress & train - it was 'too windy' - but she had requested those shots specifically! Frustrating. "

It always amazes me what stress does to people at a wedding. Some of the sweetest little girls will turn into "BrideZilla" on their wedding day. My worst case so far was when the bride and maid of honor got into a knife fight with each other just before the bride was to walk down the aisle. The only difference between that wedding and a nightmare is that I got to wake up from the nightmare.

I have also noticed that the reception shots are often better as everyone is relaxed and having fun now that wedding is over.

But then you will have the loving and really fun couples that are just a joy to work with and you wish they would get married every weekend!!! My all time favorite wedding was this little gal from the state of Michigan whose husband is from the state of Washington and she got married here in Iowa. Her favorite grandpa lived here and was too ill to travel, so she got married here so that he could attend her wedding. I have attached a few shots from that wedding. She did not wear on speck of make-up either!!!

Congratulations Bill. You are no longer a wedding virgin. 😉

Wayne
 
Great wedding shots that I missed!

I left a reception early once and missed a great shot. The bride caught on fire! She dance too closely to a poorly set-up candle center-piece and caught her very elaborate train on fire. According to the stories she danced slowly for about 10-15 more steps before the flames alerted someone as to why she was smoking.

No one got hurt.

--Paul
 
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