Did you have an assault rifle and 500 rounds of ammo with you?
There is such a thing as "reasonable Suspicion" and this woman falls into that category. She had published online that this Air National Guard base was being used to set up "FEMA Concentration Camps" to intern civilians during times of emergency. She was carrying an assault rifle, and large amounts of cash. She had been to this military base before. To state that she was just a photographer taking pictures of a tourist attraction at a local airport- not the whole story.
If she had opened fire, the police would have been criticized for not taking preventative actions. I have friends that are dead from domestic terrorists because the police did not take preventative action when the pieces of the puzzle were laid before them.
If she had opened fire, the police would have been criticized for not taking preventative actions. I have friends that are dead from domestic terrorists because the police did not take preventative action when the pieces of the puzzle were laid before them.
retro
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The point isn't the suspicion, it's the brutal treatment and false
imprisonment of someone who hadn't broken a single law.
Nobody's saying she shouldn't have been investigated.
(And, no, I don't agree with her apparent political views)
What happened to her is a sample of an attitude by those in
authority toward people with cameras and it's happening all over
the world of late.
It looks like it's even happening on this forum.
I don't care if she may not believe in what I believe or if she doesn't
belong to my club. You don't treat someone like that when they've
done nothing illegal.
imprisonment of someone who hadn't broken a single law.
Nobody's saying she shouldn't have been investigated.
(And, no, I don't agree with her apparent political views)
What happened to her is a sample of an attitude by those in
authority toward people with cameras and it's happening all over
the world of late.
It looks like it's even happening on this forum.
I don't care if she may not believe in what I believe or if she doesn't
belong to my club. You don't treat someone like that when they've
done nothing illegal.
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Again- the camera did not get her into trouble. Everything else about her did.
I would have preferred the police stop the person that killed my friends, even if he had done nothing wrong before committing murder.
His name was McVeigh.
I would have preferred the police stop the person that killed my friends, even if he had done nothing wrong before committing murder.
His name was McVeigh.
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retro
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^ Since you continue to avoid my point about brutality I can only
assume that you agree with the treatment she was given by the
police. That is, "she deserved what she got" or something along
that line. That seems to be what you're inferring with your
comments.
I think that is the basic disagreement here because I don't go along
with that at all.
I don't care how many infamous names you drop. I believe we're
supposed to have a certain standard of behavior towards the millions
and billions of other people who haven't done anything wrong or illegal.
Innocent until proven guilty and all that, you know.
assume that you agree with the treatment she was given by the
police. That is, "she deserved what she got" or something along
that line. That seems to be what you're inferring with your
comments.
I think that is the basic disagreement here because I don't go along
with that at all.
I don't care how many infamous names you drop. I believe we're
supposed to have a certain standard of behavior towards the millions
and billions of other people who haven't done anything wrong or illegal.
Innocent until proven guilty and all that, you know.
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I do not believe in letting innocent people get murdered before action is taken. A Security Guard is going to use force to stop someone with an assault rifle that has demonstrated animosity towards the facility that they are protecting.
If someone approaches my place of work with an assault rifle, I suspect the Security Guards will use appropriate force to stop them.
If someone approaches my place of work with an assault rifle, I suspect the Security Guards will use appropriate force to stop them.
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If this thread had been labeled "Outrageous encounter between Heavily Armed Woman/ Police", I doubt much sympathy would be raised.
This encounter was between a heavily armed person and the police.
This encounter was between a heavily armed person and the police.
retro
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Thank you for your comments, Brian. You've made your position
on this matter very clear.
on this matter very clear.
Guaranteed
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Not a chance, because the chief of police in my town insists on pushing his agenda of nobody legally being able to buy firearms by refusing to even accept permit applications. Better still was that anyone that did have a permit that needed to renew it was also refused with no reason given as to why. He even went so far as trying to take away the town police sidearms when their shift was over, that was until the cop union filed a lawsuit against the town.
What all these anti-gun nuts don't realize is the criminals are always gonna get their hands on whatever guns they can afford. Hell, I can go about three towns over and pic up a Mac 10 for a few hundred if I really felt the need to own one.
Very different from Virginia. I can legally fire a 22LR in my backyard. The zoning allows for firing a 22LR on more than 5 acres, I have 5.2. I have not fired a gun in 30 years. One of the neighbors made use of the zoning laws, and you could hear him target shooting. He blew himself up, and completely flattened his entire house. Nothing left but a hole in the ground. The explosion rocked my house. He was loading pipe bombs into a rental van, and was planning to blow-up the Fairfax County government center. They exploded prematurely. He was a Social Worker. The only person that he hurt was himself, mostly because we are in a neighborhood with acreage. Had it been houses on 1/2 acres or less- he would have taken out a couple of houses with him.